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Trump Ends Ban On Supersonic Flights Over United States Land

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Is supersonic commercial aviation one step closer to becoming a reality in the United States? Well, at least one major barrier standing in the way of it is being lifted…

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 Arps
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excellent analysis, I would just add that Trump supporters are worse than morons, they are also depraved and immoral to the bone.


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(@AreoB13a)
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…. BOOM, BOOM …. Apes …. BOOM, BOOM ….


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Diamond
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"The reasons for these restrictions are that sonic booms can be loud, and even capable of causing damage on the ground."

Yes and no. Another reason was that Concorde was a French-British plane, operated exclusively by Air France and British Airways.

India had taken a similar measure which led Qantas to cancel its Concorde order.


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 Pete
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If everyone ignored him, the comments would soon cease.


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(@Justin Dev)
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This is so stupid. No one who has ever been in the path of a sonic boom would think this is a good thing.


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(@Aaron)
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Maybe look into any financial, family, or any other type of links between President Taco and Boom?


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(@Ivan X)
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I find his trollery amusing, though.


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(@Ivan X)
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I’m not following the logic of that there’s so much premium demand that premium cabins are getting bigger, but an all premium configured plane would cannibalize sales. If there’s sufficient demand, what’s economically problematic for an airline about more premium seats?


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(@Big Al)
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TDS at it again. hahah so funny that you guys LOVE sitting in that space.

cute


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(@Aaron)
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Not as much as you seem to love sitting in OTL space lol.


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(@Northern Flyer)
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I was lucky enough to fly Concorde twice, once in each direction. Can’t think I will ever get the chance to fly supersonic commercially ever again.


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(@Justin Dev)
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@Grkennedy

Sonic booms are more than just loud. They cause your body to vibrate, your house to shake... it is very disturbing. I experienced a sonic boom event in DC when they had to scramble F16s from AFB to intercept a light aircraft that was on a path to overfly the WH a year or two ago. They had to soon after explain via radio and tv what had occurred. It was darn unsettling and I do not want to go thru feeling the effects again.


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(@AeroB13a)
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People who live in ‘straw houses’ …. 🙂


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Diamond
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Must be about the first decent thing he did in his life.
Albeit, I don't believe Supersonic passenger flights will ever return and I'm sure I'm not alone.


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(@AeroB13a)
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Yes, I did the Rio-Paris in ‘82 after a stint in the South Atlantic.
Hated the thing, couldn’t even stand up straight to urinate!
I haven’t been on an AF aircraft since.
However, I will try the New La Premiere suite out on the CDG-SIN route when it gets off the ground.
No! I’m not taking the p***.


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Gold
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“SuperSonic is back baby!”

What an incredibly stupid thing to say. Job well done at ending a ban on something that no longer exists.

Although, if this government is as effective at bringing back SST as they are at bringing back measles and other eradicated diseases, perhaps Boom will be a success!


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@Big Al
What's telling is that MAGAts like you are so deep in the cult that you knee-jerk react to any criticism of Mango Mussolini with "TDS". Maybe think for yourself for once? Sorry, I know that's asking a lot.


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Diamond
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Don't hold your breath! Boom is maybe alone made for Airshows, just like the B777X. Supersonic Passengerflights is dead.


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(@Justin Dev)
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OY! Continue making stupid remarks. Perhaps you think doing so serves you well...


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 Jeff
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What's most stupid about this is that it is just an executive order (which is how he governs) -- that means that this order probably just lasts until January 2029, during which time we will have exactly zero commercial supersonic planes. So it's just a statement by him, not anything that has meaningful implications. In fact, given that it's nothing more than an executive order, no rational commercial actor is going to build planes based on a business plan that requires flying across the continental US.


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(@derek)
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Kamala wants to run again. She needs to take a stand if she supports this. Dr. Jill Biden was opposed to her selection after she viciously and falsely implied that Biden was a racist during a debate.


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(@AeroB13a)
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How long will it be before all of the privately owned historic jets capable of Mach 1+ will be ‘banging’ around the American airspace?


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(@Eskimo)
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That didn't work against Tim Dunn.


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(@Eskimo)
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You mean Kamala wants to lose again.

It's not that Democrats are too dumb to realize that.
They're just too dumb to realize repeating dumb strategies will still result the same.


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Diamond
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Bro, have you not noticed that the likes of Tim, Apes, Aaron, etc, are simply clickbaiters for the likes of you and your clan ….


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 Greg
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Space X generated a known-in-advance sonic boom on re-entry landing just 25 miles off Oceanside and a path that flew over land.

Shook hundreds of miles of populated coastal area, jostled attics and windows like a moderate earthquake.

https://x.com/Dillonshrop06/status/1926392133155524817

Not sure what loophole that used.


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(@jojojo)
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this is another DUMB move by this orange king. so many lives will be harmed and then all the anxiety from living next to an airport and have to deal with loud booms. another illegal action that will kill americans


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(@ImmortalSynn)
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Can you give an example of such "privately owned historic jets" that you think would be doing such at thing?


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(@ImmortalSynn)
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"What's most stupid about this is that it is just an executive order"

Not entirely true.

Both chambers of Congress have introduced legislation in order to codify this directive into permanent law, with the Senate version (SB1759) expected to be the baseline over the House's.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1759/amendments


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(@Hall Decker)
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"Sound Barrier" can be crossed without a boom ... seems like a prior life, I flew "in command of the rear seat" of an F-4 Blue Angel plane .."pilot flew out over the Gulf, told me he was going to 'goose the speed' ... then congratulated me for busting it. Something called the "mach cutoff", speed and height cause the 'boom' to fade out before it reaches the ground. I was a news reporter, Navy PR set up one 'orientation' flight for each annual event, to "demonstrate combat maneuvers."


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(@KlimaBXsst)
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The hysterics about non-sonic booms due to Mach Cutoff, are perplexing to me. Wouldn’t our social heroes media heroes Tony Fauci, or Dr. Jill Biden encourage “trust the science?” It’s not as if Mach Cutoff is an imaginary phenomena, made up by Eastwick witches, or Salem warlocks, so thus please someone explain the hysterics.


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(@FlyerDon)
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Anybody have an idea of how difficult it is for ATC to separate aircraft when one of them is going twice as fast as all the others? How about if a hundred are going that fast? Even if they can fly above FL500 they still need to get up there and then back down mixing with traffic flying half as fast. It’s going to take a much more sophisticated ATC system than we have now to handle a mix of traffic like that.


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Diamond
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Lucky is a Trump lover! Constantly reporting his eery move!


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Diamond
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every* move


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 JDee
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Well, let's not forget how Republicans lost their shit when a "black man" was twice elected President


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(@Dusty)
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Probably a mix of "Who's going to stop me" and "Screw the rules, I have money".


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(@diogenesthecynic)
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It is also not true that it is "just an executive order."

The EO directs DOT to undertake rulemaking to remove the prohibition and establish a new noise standard. Those things cannot be undone in January 2029 -- they would take a further rulemaking process of a year or two, and the agency would have to justify why it is reinstating the prohibition after removing it very recently.

Moreover, the current ban is itself regulation so yeah, the way you undo it is through regulation, which is what the executive order directs.

Yes, without action from Congress, a future administration can undertake a process to undo this -- as they could with any regulatory action, like revising standards for drug approvals or emissions standards for power plants, which doesn't seem to mean those industries live in total uncertainty -- but anyone saying it's "just an executive order" does not know what they are talking about and should be ignored.


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(@traveldude)
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Boom Supersonic's valuation probably going Supersonic right now


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