Excellent review, Ben!
Even if the hard product (single row of 'sorta' first class suites) isn't literally The Residence or even La Première, it still seems quite nice. On board, the additional privacy, elevated dining (c'mon, that caviar), additional amenities (fancy PJs, Aesop... niccce), and dedicated service. And, that VIP-style ground experience, while not worth paying outright for P/S, was a great inclusion, too.
Fine, it's definitely not necessary for most; like, if I can find that sweet-deal 75-85K/way in J with AS points (like @samar pulled off recently from PHX), I'll go with that instead. Ahh, how I wish JX flew JFK-TPE nonstop. Overall, I think the airline deserves a higher ranking than Hainan (#8? Psh) on the recent Skytrax updates (feels like pay-to-play, over there).
Anyway, "as a completionist" ... Ben, I take it you'll be at ABJ, soon enough! (Finish it!!)
Great review! Just such a late flight not to get a glass of champagne on the ground, especially with you presumably still being on Eastern Time. Well done eating all of that food overnight! Hey, someone has to do it.
Almost feels like they should be offering buy-ups to the seat at check-in if no one else is in F, and then just deliver a J experience. But I guess that wouldn't preserve the exclusivity of the product, even if it would be a logical way of monetizing it. Don't have to give J customers Loro Piano blankets and Huntsman PJs and such for them to enjoy the more spacious bed on overnight flights such as this one.
Is it me or was that the largest breakfast @Ben has ever been served?
The one thing all carriers who call TPE home have in common is having some of the best whiskies for their class.
Now this is the only first class product out of TPE carrier so was interested to look at the whiskies list on the menu. It does not disappoint. Kavalan Solist Amontillado is definitely very, very fine whisky.
What do you think they do with the rest of the champagne? I felt bad after having a single glass of Salon in JAL F, being the only one drinking it. I was interested in trying the whiskeys and sakes as well.
Anxiously awaiting ORD_is_his_asylum to chime in with his customary insane garbage.
No skimping here. The Loro Piano pillow & throw retail for about two grand. Nice way to make you feel cozy for a couple hours! And the caviar with mother of pearl shovel very elegant! And I remembered the cost.....
Thanks Ben for such an in-depth review!
On the champagne and wine list Starlux truly deserves a round of applause. While pretty much every first class product nowadays has gone cheap on their wine list and only shell out for the champagne, Starlux offers something pretty special. Here’s just the champagne and the reds:
Bollinger Le Grande Annee Brut 2015 95 pts $215
Chateau Belair-Monange 2014 93 pts $165
Pahlmeyer Jayson Cab Sauv 2021 93 pts $100
Macan Rioja 93 pts $130
Having just flown Starlux business TPE-SFO, I can attest that what you experienced in First class is definitely not just "business-plus". The attention to detail across both hard and soft product is amazing and the quality of the items in First (Loro Piano throw, the pajamas, wine, etc) are all a huge step up over what is already quite nice in Business.
Great review! I’m seriously tempted to try this out (or fly Starlux again) as soon as possible, before additional partnerships (AA) makes finding already scarce award space even more impossible. Though to be honest, if I’m going to spend cash to book an F flight, I feel like booking La Premiere would be a better use of my money?
I forgot about the music in the lavatories…I found that a bit weird but the music was good at least.
Shouldn’t Starlux make your list of the best F products on the basis of the soft product and ground experience alone? It’s bordering on the La Première pricing and experience — pay thousands of dollars but get everything out of it, never mind that the hard product isn’t some JAL-style enclosed suite. I think JX has East Asia’s second-best F product after JAL, especially when both operate the A350-1000 (though JX’s -900s and -1000s have identical products, unlike JL’s).
Also, it’s the first time I’m seeing a Mandarin Chinese-speaking airline (CX isn’t Mandarin) provide such high-quality service and fluent English; the Taiwanese are seriously upping their game in that regard. Chinese-speaking airlines other than CX aren’t otherwise known to be great at English, and that reflects in their entertainment selection — so BR and CI are next in line to improve this aspect accordingly.
I'd love to see how often they sell the cash First fare on the ONT route.
Has to be the most random airport to have 3 cabin First service. Yes I now it's a big Taiwanese origin airport (China Airlines), and some biz travel that doesn't want to deal with the traffic to LAX, but still...
@lucky, thank you for this detailed review!
Given what JX provides in terms of its first class soft product & ground service, plus its lean team handling first class details, I'm now quite dubious that, even if some sort of loyalty reciprocity between JX and AA is established, JX F will be bookable with AA miles. (Also there soon won't be any first class on AA, or any U.S. carrier, so there wouldn't be anything to reciprocate regardless, though I realize in practice it might not be executed quite one for one like that.) Maybe some sort of stripped down version of JX F with AA miles might be offered (likely without PS LAX access.) Hopefully I'm proven wrong on all counts.
So, barring a COSMILE currency sale down the line (which I'll be ready to pounce on), you've probably flown transpacific JX F as inexpensively as possible for a U.S.-based customer.
Really appreciate your shedding light on how best to book this. What a shame it ranks second, just below the more luxurious, prepandemic version of Etihad The Residence, in terms of cash cost among all your flights!
I am not sexist, but I do like it when these Eastern airlines have attractive young stewardess and senior male pilots. It is how I remember things when America was a happier place before wokery.
Looking at that North American airport list, it's now become clear to me why Starlux F is such an oddity.
Over half of their stations don't really support F. LAX makes sense, SFO sort of, although not as much as LAX. SEA/PHX/ONT haven't ever really supported F, nor will they ever. And those stations won't ever have a good ground experience for F passengers ever. Even at SFO, Starlux sends F passengers to the Alaska lounge.
At some point it just doesn't make sense to keep expanding and flying what will most definitely be 100% empty F cabins. This is why airlines have different cabin configurations for different routes. They need a non-F A350 configuration.
I love that set of S&P shakers!
Of course, I wouldn't be crass enough to pocket them, and wonder if there are any boxed sets for F pax who enquire since they appear to be very proactive in anticipating passenger desires.
I can’t decide what I want to eat tonight, let alone 2 days from now.
Some of the joy of flying first is the process of having unknown dinner options (like a new restaurant menu), and making the decision right there in the moment.
I’m not happy about food waste on a flight, but I’m also not happy about the reduction of airline costs being sold as a plus for the customers…. Starlux seems to at least add an extra amount of attention to food quality as their trade off…. but thats not a guarantee down the road or with other airlines following the same model.
@Ben, with which card did you pay the $5100 this cost you (for points and taxes/fees)? The value of whatever points you accumulated from that should be calculated somewhat into the value, the same way you felt that getting the PS Salon ground treatment helped offset the cost.
Looks like an awesome flight and experience! If pricing is about equal ex-US, then it seems LAX is by far the best “value”, given the PS access.
