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Finnair Weighing Passengers In Helsinki

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If you’re flying Finnair through its Helsinki hub in the coming months, you may be asked to step on a scale at your departure gate…

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(@DCWABN)
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The irony/lack-of-precision of this all is that the folks who have caused a change in the average weight of passengers (it's gone up) are, historically, least likely to want to step on a scale at all - even if it's anonymous - for myriad reasons. I'm curious how far off the true average FinnAir's results will be.


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(@tony xu)
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OpenAI can probably sell a model that predicts your weight from your appearance.

Funny how people are embarrassed to be weighed in public. But they're not embarrassed to be seen on the plane eating junk food.


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Diamond
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Open AI is a language learning module. How exactly is guessing the next word in a sentence going to help determine the average weight of passengers in Helsinki? People seem to think these AI modules are way more useful than they are. How many 7 fingered fakes does it take for people to realize the current publicly available AI is a scam?


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(@JWags)
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Its honestly hilarious. The current functional AI models are great for data entry, chat prompts/call centers, etc... Yet people are subbing them for the idea of a fully functional AI that is doing complex strategic thinking/decision making that humans would do. And its allowing companies and marketing people to throw "with AI" in all over the place and people lap it up.


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Gold
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If it's not compulsory, I'm sure those overweight passengers would never step on the scale..........


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(@UncleRonnie)
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Put the scales in front of the Burger King counter.


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(@Wrench)
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Could the airline not simply just ask for an I.D. that shows their weight and ask to record that at booking, but simply recorded without it adjoining the rest of their personal information? Having flown in small planes in Alaska I was asked my weight. I was fine with providing it to ensure my safety. If that conversely makes jet travel safer, and more efficient then lets do that.


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(@Wigand Weirich)
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1. I would think that overweight passengers or passengers with overweight luggage would participate less here. Accuracy?
2. If my weight is less than average I can bring (more) luggage with me, free of charge.


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(@DC Yukon)
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Once upon a time, while traveling around Papua New Guinea, Air Niuguini required all pax and carryons to be weighed on flights over then poorly mapped interior mountain ranges. They used an analog scale where the readout faced the agent behind the counter, not towards passengers, so not even the person on the scale could see it. I blamed any excess weight on camera equipment in carryons.


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(@jujubird)
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They should also track by nationality. If a flight has a oversized population of Americans on board, they would need to know the effect on aircraft weight. Finnair may even need to reduce the number of passengers on board if its so American heavy.


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 Samo
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That wouldn't work (even if it was a good idea, which it isn't) since Finnair generally doesn't know nationality of pax on board. The exception to this are non-Schengen flights where API is required, but those are mostly longhauls where the pax weight matters a lot less, and flights to Spain.

Thus, even if AY knew that Americans weigh more on average, it would be useless since they generally don't know whether they have Americans on board.


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 Samo
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How many people have an ID that shows their weight? Does that even exist anywhere in 2024?


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 Samo
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I believe that the "only the agent sees the weight" approach isn't good and will still put many people off participating. I recall some other airline doing this in a more sophisticated way where no one saw the pax's weight, not even the agent overseeing the process. The scale simply registered it in the database without showing it to anyone. The only feedback was an audible "ok" signal.


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(@iamhere)
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How do other airlines handle it or do they just assume an average weight


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 DaJo
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There should be a combined luggage/passenger limit.


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