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FAA Firing Two Air Traffic Controllers For Leaving Early On Night Of Deadly LaGuardia Air Canada Accident

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In March 2026, we saw an Air Canada Jazz CRJ-900 collide with a fire truck at New York's LaGuardia Airport (LGA), claiming the lives of two pilots, and injuring dozens of others.


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 E39
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Well that's not good


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(@ted poco)
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Of course, the managers are not punished.


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(@Maryland)
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Then Secretary Duffy is an abuser as well for failure to solve the need for ATC overtime? Workers required to
serve overtime without compensation are slaves.


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That one hour difference could be the shift overlap ?


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 Ron
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As a controller myself, the administration is (not surprisingly) trying to shift blame as far away from themselves as possible and find any scapegoats possible. They slashed staffing targets and won’t even give us our 2.8% “raise” because the administrator claims we don’t work enough. Yes the controllers shouldn’t have left, but unless they were paged/called back and they didnt respond then that obviously had NOTHING to do with the crash in any way.


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The Trump family as a whole gave up earning hundreds of billions in favor of working for the good for the American people and in service of the American people and here you are complaining about a few percentages of pay increase.
Ungrateful


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Ron gets it. Thank you for what you do. Hopefully LGA actually fixes the transponder issue (or lack thereof), soon, so incidents like this are less likely to ever happen again.

(JPlat, holy gish-gallop, Batman; is your 'source' OAN, or Newsmax this time? Ignore Trump’s crypto, etc. $2.2 billion in 2025; blame those pesky wage-earners instead! /s)


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For work, we have contracts with Amazon to do XYZ in fulfillment and distribution centers. I know ( purely casual talking / acquaintances ) that I would see consistently on my visits over a few years at one facility in the smoking area. Lovely people and always showed up for work and exceeded the output rate Amazon predetermined while consistently being in top 1 percent of productivity in a certain state.

They were fired and blacklist by Amazon for time card fraud because they would go smoke on unscheduled breaks ( their managers let them go outside since finished ) Let me say, this was also when their work was done and Amazon preferred them to stand at a station for hours doing absolutely nothing.

So Amazon lets employees sit on phones, eat and mingle at stations while working and screwing around ( violates all policies and termination for cause / unproductive / time card fraud ) and not hit your rate. But people get fired bc time card fraud for smoking after they completed 10 hours of work in 7 hours and it’s approved by their team manager.

Yes, not nearly same thing as FAA and peoples lives but time card fraud is rampant and happens. I can guarantee the person that fired A & B person engages in time card fraud in a way as well.


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I thought it had to do with shift breaks? i.e the breaks are scheduled in a way that one would fall at the end of the shift, so you leave rather than sit in a break room for half an hour and then leave? I wouldn't call that fraud; maybe just bad policy to require breaks to not be deferred that long


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What were the controllers scheduled hours that night? Did they leave before the end of those hours? If so, did they get supervisory approval to do so? Did they leave and still show as on the clock? Answer the questions before an opinion can be given.


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Obviously one controller below did not get the $10,000 bonus for working during the shutdown and all that person had to do was show up and DO their job. It is a job and you are paid well comparatively speaking. It’s a job, go find another cushy job that pays you as well and benefits without requiring you to be a business owner or formal education for college or graduate school. Cry me a river on 2.8 percent, sadly that’s our entitlement society. Raises are earned, not expected.

If you want a guaranteed raise. Go work in a state for minimum wage that is yearly increasing pay rates to hit a target pay. Oh, that’s also right in which you might be fired unexpectedly bc of guaranteed pay policies gored on employers.

So cry me a river on your cushy job, yes stressful…..but still cushy and it takes people being killed to possibly being fired. SAD.


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