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EVA Air Cargo Boeing 777 Botched Landing During Typhoon

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I’ve seen videos of a lot of rough landings in my life, though I’ve never seen anything quite like this.

Continue reading: Ouch: EVA Air Cargo Boeing 777 Botched Landing During Typhoon

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(@Eskimo)
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"You wouldn’t think that’s possible"

The late Niki Lauda sends his regards.


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(@Eric Schmidt)
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It would seem that the gear position switches that detect "landed" status were engaged enough on the right bogie, to trigger the thrust reversers.


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Diamond
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As my Norwegian grandmother would say,
“Uff-da”!


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(@Benjamin)
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From what I know, reverse thrust is not activated automatically but manually. However there is a delay from when the pilot puts the throttles into reverser thrust, to when they actually deploy. I imagine the pilots engaged the reverse thrust upon touchdown, and the gear had enough of a ‘on the ground’ signal to allow activation. But then by the time the reversers actually activated, the plane was back in the air…


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 E39
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Or «hæstkuk»


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(@AeroB13a)
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Looking at the very short video clip …. Some fine flying there in tricky conditions Captain. Any landing which you walk away from is a good landing.


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 Tom
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I would have to imagine a cargo plane coming back from LAX is nearly empty, especially if they flew nonstop. So maybe plane wasn't that heavy and didn't get damage. If they are fully loaded, don't they usually fly LAX-ANC-TPE?


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(@ImmortalSynn)
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Since the crash of Lauda Air 004 in 1991, aircraft thrust reversers were redesigned to require weight on the main landing gear, before opening.

Here, you had that, albeit temporarily. But it was enough.


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Diamond
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You're generally going to bulk-out the volume on a 77F, long before you hit MZFW. So transpacific range generally won't be a problem. It's the main thing the 777-F was designed for)

On most days, EVA has 2 cargo flights (BR619 and 621) from LAX and China Airlines has 1 (CI5115), and they almost always do LAX-TPE nonstop.


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(@Win Whitmire)
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I only taught the 777 for one year. I've taught Part 121 flying for 27 years. I have NEVER seen a thrust reverser open in flight except from a malfunction. There are way too many safeguards. The McDonnell Douglas MD series could deploy the clamshell reversers before the nose touched down...banging the lower clamshell! I know that NASA modified the a few Gulfstream "buckets" to simulate the Shuttle and some of the military aircraft can do the same for tactical reasons.


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(@Win Whitmire)
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Agreed! Here's a comment from a well known aviator!“If you can walk away from a landing, it’s a good landing. If you can use the airplane the next day, it’s an outstanding landing!” USAF General Charles E. Yeager


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(@Eskimo)
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The late Niki Lauda thanks you.


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(@jetjock64)
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B.S. THESE GUYS WERE NOT PILOTS--robots maybe? The proof is in the complete absence of crosswind controls, i.e., rudder into the wind and opposite aileron. There was none of that. This landing did not need to happen that way, period.


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(@Pilot93434)
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“Never before have I seen an aircraft’s reverse thruster’s deploy while airborne. You wouldn’t think that’s possible, though maybe once the plane touched down, those were automatically deployed.”

There is no automatic thrust reverser, function or feature on the 777. How they got them deployed in the air is wild. They must have had weight on wheels system logic to unlock them, and didn’t pull them fully out until a second later.


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 John
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Eskimoo creams himself just by saying "Niki Lauda". Weird. But that's Eskimoo for you.


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(@AeroB13a)
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lol …. Of course, we were all there, we were all at the controls, we were all on the ground witnessing the events, we are all armchair poo-pilots …. regardless of what we might say, think or do …. THESE GUYS WERE THE PILOTS WHO ACTUALLY WALKED AWAY!


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