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This strikes me as being spectacularly bad judgment on so many levels…

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 1990
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Maybe, hear me out, we should both decriminalize and legalize this particular substance, which has valid medical and recreational uses, within reason. Now, obviously, a crew member should not use this or any substance, especially those that impair, like THC or alcohol.


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(@ECR12)
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Imagine bringing sand to a desert


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Diamond
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Weed also happens to be legal in New York, albeit lower quality then Cali bud. Assuming he did this intentionally, he literally could have bought some either in NY or SF without any issues lol


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(@Maryland)
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Dumb yes. And for the why? Because using drugs leads to making poor choices.


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@ Maryland -- Sure, consuming alcohol also leads to poor choices. But at least marijuana also has a medical use, unlike alcohol.


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(@justindev)
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Absolutely not. It freaking stinks. It is disgusting. It reeks to high heaven and makes me want to vomit.
I wish they would ban it.
And most people smoking it are not doing it for medical reasons.


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(@justindev)
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That crap needs to be banned. It is disgusting


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(@George Romey)
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Don't know his intentions but the last thing I would want is my pilot toking on a bong in the hotel room before going down to meet the crew van.


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(@Maryland)
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Alcohol and recreational drug use will not anyone smarter. I have observed this ; )


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 John
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I thought Marijuana is also legally banned and criminally punishable in India. That guys is in double trouble probably.


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(@Endre)
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Being a good Indian with fragile masculinity issues, he will not accept any responsibility and blame US laws.


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(@ECR12)
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I find lots of things disgusting, so I choose not to do them. Why would I care what others do?


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(@GRKennedy)
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I think it’s better than alcohol in just about every way.

Except that a one-time consumption of alcohol cannot trigger schizophrenia nor psychosis. Marijuana can.


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(@GRKennedy)
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Ben, diamorphine also has a medical use, and that doesn't mean recreational use is ok.


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(@ECR12)
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One time consumption of alcohol can kill.


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(@guldennl)
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One hundred percent agreed about smoking it, should not be legal in public, not in multi person housing. Pot-heads tend to be narcissists and just don't care about others. I feel the same about cigarettes being banned everywhere too, BTW.


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 Mel
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Probably needed it to cover the smell from the main cabin.


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(@Richard)
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That was so oddly specific. No one is judging you Endre.......no really.


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 Ross
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What's most interesting about this item is that the photo of the Air India jet is from a 2024 review of Singapore Airlines Business Class.

Have to stay away from alcohol and weed, to be sharp enough to manage a collection of airplane images.


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(@David)
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Smoke a little weed. Take a crap on the sidewalk. Welcome to San Francisco.


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(@AeroB13a)
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One simply cannot wait for the pot head proletariat to join in this conversation after happy hour and a couple of spiffs …. 100 clicks in the making is this article Ben.


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(@Icarus)
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Others fine, however it’s the smell of marijuana that’s a problem. Many people don’t want to breath it as they pass someone who chooses to smoke it. Nor do I want to arrive home and find the corridor of my building is filled with the pungent smell as a neighbour decides to light a joint. This added to vaping.


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(@Johosofat)
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Do you smoke reefer, Ben? And do you support airlines to allow crew to use the substance with similar time to duty limits as are in place for alcohol?


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 1990
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(Lotta narcs in these comments…)


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Diamond
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I agree with 1990 on this. Legalize it and tax it. I'm all about that. I don't partake myself (I'm also subject to DOT random testing) and on a flight would rather sit next to a chain smoker wearing the sweater they always smoke in versus someone smelling of weed, but if you wanna do it, go for it. I just don't want to pay for it.

I do agree with not allowing it to come in from overseas. Because if we legalize it, it would be inspected and held to some standards (Towlie can't be everywhere at once though). Plus, again, who needs to bring substandard Indian weed to California? Buy American!


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Diamond
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One time consumption of water in a large enough quantity can kill too.


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 Ole
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Americans commenting on fragile masculinity, and accepting responsibility is the most hypocritic statement of the day on this blog.


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Diamond
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Achrispetty (ig) who himself got caught for MJ and lives in Colorado explained the total prohibition and why he understands it... many countries where its banned do test for it, and if crew got caught up with local law enforcement and were tested it would come back positive even if the consumption occurred in a jurisdiction where it's legal. This would of course have potentially significant operations impact.


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(@Hank Tarn)
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I would ban all his relatives to send a message that America is no longer the soft touch so many seem to think we are.

A South Asian told me that Indian’s won’t let visitors eat beef steak so we cannot have them with drugs only for American use.


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Diamond
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Wildly inappropriate and racist comment, completely unwelcome here.


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(@This comes to mind)
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I once caught a reality show filmed at the Detroit border crossing. A guy was caught with mj and a gun coming into Michigan. Gee, guy, you can legal buy the first and easily buy the second in Detroit.


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(@OtherSteve)
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"will not anyone smarter"

Which drug makes you forget words, hmm?


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(@Rebecca)
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He will probably just play it dumb and say his mom packed his bag. Like all the people who get caught on Australia's Border Security tv series.


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(@Craig)
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We need to bring back smoking on planes, that way people can use up all their drugs while over international waters.


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(@justindev)
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because the smoke and vile stench impact you? It is weird you think people smoke in a vacuum.


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 Ole
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Semi-automatic guns have military use and yet we have made its recreational use ok.


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(@Jeff Chang)
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Imagine how the pilot smelled, is that how customs suspected him? His stench?


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(@Eskimo)
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All these propagandas.

They never stop you from eating beef.
They just won't sell you.

Courtesy of their gods will.

Just like a different god who wants you to banish infidels (everyone else) from your self anoited holy land. And only eat fish on fry days until you see a bunny.


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 Mel
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Well that would apply to every Air India flight.


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(@Speedbird)
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Have you been on this blog for very long? This sort of racism is extremely welcome here. Somewhere along the line Ben realized a 4chan esque comment section will create controversy and drive traffic


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(@Speedbird)
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We call weed “kush” bc of the Hindu kush lmfao get me some of that south asian weed over the stuff we grow any day. I imagine it’s medical properties are enhanced too, considering if it was collected in the wild it hasn’t been selectively bread to contain ridiculously high thc content to make you brain dead


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(@Eskimo)
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Depends on the context. But it can be completely legal in India.

Too keep it simple.
Its like how you serve wine to minors in holy communion.

While the priest and the boy is definitely not legal, but because father said so and the boy will go to hell if he speak up.
Ironically boy left the church and found brotherhood in the boyscouts.

You just gotta love these exceptions.


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(@Eskimo)
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@Ben

Alcohol does have medical use.

But the education system is to blame.

Rather than burning and banning books.
Maybe actually teaching science and chemistry?


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(@Eskimo)
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Finally someone who actually gets it.
@Speedbird is correct.

The crazy shit people get from dispensary contains GMO with absurdly high THC.


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Diamond
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One difficulty if you accept that marijuana use is not detrimental to a crew's functioning when consumed off duty (and also not within a reasonable amount of time before reporting to duty) is that there is no test to determine if a crewmember is currently under the influence of THC. The test only confirms consumption happened, not when. So if a pilot smoked a joint on Monday night, then reported for duty on Wednesday morning, a test on Wednesday would be positive even though s/he was no longer stoned.


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(@Joe Schmidt)
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It has almost no medical benefit except for very specific things. This has been proven. Most studies that were put out were funded by pot companies. Independant studies contradict many older studies. Pot is proven to be harmful.


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(@Maryland)
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Other Steve. It's called lymphoma and I cannot use anything because of my low platelet count. But yes I did add the smiling face because correcting stuff exhausts me. Forgive please.


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 dee
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It is not good for your lungs or your mental health...


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(@RobPHX)
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Mile "high" club redifined.


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(@PeteAU)
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The "medicinal uses" for cannabis have very limited and poor-quality evidence to support them. Much like gender-affirmation "therapy" for minors, the medicinal cannabis industry is activist-driven and backed-up by corporate entities that make a tidy bundle selling snake-oil to the misinformed and ignorant.


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(@PeteAU)
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No, it's not good for you at all, and like chronic alcohol consumption it can have cumulative effects on decision-making and reaction times that last long after the "high" has dissipated. I'm all in favour of drug & alcohol testing pilots and cabin crew regularly, and firing those who fail. Safety first, activism a distant last.


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Diamond
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Sure, but one happens roughly 2,200 times a year in the US alone, while the other is so rare that known or suspected incidents are chronicled on Wikipedia.


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(@Jake212)
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This is hilarious


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(@PeteAU)
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Joe Schmidt is 100% correct.


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(@Natarajan Sivsubramanian)
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the report does not state clearly whether marijuna was loaded
in the checked baggage or hand baggage. if it is hand baggage
some one would have added the same in his hand baggage
without his knowledge this may be possibly a mischief done
by some one.


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 1990
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Eskimosabe! Re-educate us on all the propagandas, oh wise sage.


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(@Indians are out of control!)
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Relative of yours? Try Better next time. Maybe the same mischevious person Downed the AI plane in Ahmedabad,India too!


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(@DoofusMcGoofus)
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You could say the same thing about Christianity.


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(@I am Not a Dirty Indian!)
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Forget the Relatives, Ban ALL his countrymen from entering.


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(@DoofusMcGoofus)
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How soft can a person be?


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(@I am Not a Dirty Indian!)
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Tide seems to be turning against the Indians period! Not everyone is a Google CEO! "Too many Indians and Not enough to watch them"


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(@kishoreajoshi)
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inappropriate and racist, or inappropriate *OR* racist?? Think again...


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(@kishoreajoshi)
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If any part of a dead cow (or often a dead buffalo/bison wrongly considered to be a cow) is found in your flat, the hordes and mobs will soon ensure that you are dead...

Check your acts, Eskimo...This ain't First Nation/Alaska...


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(@kishoreajoshi)
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hyponatremia-linked deaths occur with a certain regularity during, and generally more often afterwards, several major US marathons...


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(@kishoreajohi)
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so you don't care about open defamation... I guess Tenderloin and Dharavi share that in common...


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(@kishoreajoshi)
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generally, but certainly not 100%--the truth is more nuanced than he, Tim Dunn, and many other regulars on this site and other aviation-related blogs will admit...


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(@justindev)
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Medical use my arse. I am confident that 99% of people smoking that vile crap not doing so for medical reasons.


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(@Dave Stafford)
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Probably needed it to drown out the stench from the passengers. Lol


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(@James)
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Why are you so insulting Dave? It’s just so unnecessary and rude.


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(@James)
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“Ban all his relatives” - what are you on about? The guy was bringing in a drug that is entirely legal in much of the US. Sure, he broke federal regulations but why this lust for revenge against people you know nothing about?


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(@seamallowance)
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I feel that way about religion.


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(@seamallowance)
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I feel that way about religion.


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(@Martin O’Connor)
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James - He’s not wrong though.


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(@Dave Stafford)
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Or the Mike Stench Club. Lol


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