Review: Four Points By Sheraton Vancouver Airport

There are some Four Points that are way way way worse than even the terrible Sheraton near La Guardia. I consider them the lowest of SPG and sometimes by a large margin. Nevertheless, they can have good service as you note.

I think that originally it was a collection of re-branded hotels from other chains that didn't quite meet the "Sheraton Standard"--for whatever that's worth. e.g. originally there were lots of ex-Holiday Inns that were converted to Four Points properties. Maybe it was a concession to hotel owners who had multiple properties and wanted to convert all to Starwood brands. What has really confused things in my mind, is their new build properties, which are as nice as most of the North America-based Sheraton properties and in many instances nicer than most of their older properties.

It is because you went to the good Four Points. (I was actually surprised.) Bad 4P can get soooo much worse. No wonder they have the lowest satisfaction level among upscale brands.

One of the better Four Points in the system. Just across the street from the front of the hotel are a bunch a decent Asian restaurants. And it's about a 10 minute walk to the SkyTrain into downtown.

Not much Ben I stayed in one in Oklahoma between OKC and Edmonds because it was convenient but it wasn't cheap nor especially nice. The bar was really expensive and was really just a sitting area. I didn't eat in their Pseudo restaurant because it was so expensive and there were better options close by. The only reason I remember it because the trip was for my son's wedding. Reading your review pretty much confirmed what I remember. Virtually no real identity or reason to search out a Four Points. Good review

4p and aloft are two brands i would specifically avoid. Aloft due to lack of staffing and overworked staff and thus lots and lots of new employees who are always so clumsy
4p is really because most are simply bad hotels, literally in every aspect. There are two sources of them, source #1, old (sheraton) hotels that does not qualify sheraton standard. #2, new hotels that simply don't/cannot afford the sheraton contact. while #2 are usually better than #1, the standpoint of the management to begin with is budgetting, and that's no where close to a good start.

I like the Four Points brand - the one in Kecskemét, Hungary is a relatively new one - as such, it has a certain degree of Sheraton-feeling

My only 4P stay was at the one in PHL and it sucked.

When you say you got a cheap business class fare to south africa, did you factor in the costs to travel and stay in Vancouver (and other positioning costs etc)?

What did the note say? Always appreciate some good canadian humoUr

Brussels 4 pts was great. Punta Gorda, Florida too. Portland one was fine. I think that is all my experience....

Lucky,

To see what Four Points could be if it were executed properly, look at Courtyard by Marriott and Hilton Garden Inn. The point of these types of brands is to offer a consistent experience for business travel and family travelers at price points that are lower than Sheraton/Marriott/Hilton and in locations that may not support higher end brands. None of these brands are really aimed at travelers like you, but rather to business people that need to be in a city or vacationers that want a lower price alternative, etc.

I stayed at the 4P in Bellingham WA, just over the border from Vancouver. It's a nice hotel with a friendly and competent staff. I enjoyed the stay.

I've actually never stayed at a Four Points with toiletries dispensers, maybe that's new? They used to have a tray somewhat like Hyatt Place.

They also used to have a Four Brews / Four Pies program that was brand standard. Though not sure how cohesive pie really is as a point of difference...

I recently stayed in the 4P in Lima, Peru, and was pleasantly surprised. The public spaces were much smaller than what you show here, but the breakfast was OK and the room felt new and was clean. The in-room A/C started leaking and maintenance showed up within minutes to fix it.

@Lucky Welcome (back) to Vancouver!

A few notes about that neighborhood: Alexandra Road has likely the highest concentration of restaurants in the entire Lower Mainland (and that is an achievement!), the vast majority southeast Asian. The towing warning is for the (mostly Chinese) people that try to bum parking as that street gets VERY crowded and parking runs out quickly, especially weekend meal times.

The lounge restaurant inside the 4P is decent but not spectacular, and better values (not to mention more unique cuisines) can be found within a 2-min walk up Alexandra. I hope you got the chance to indulge yourself!

Anthony is spot on.

btw, there are some great asian restaurants within easy walking distance of this hotel.

Yeah but 4P in europe is totally different!!! Dornbirn Austria- one if the funkiest suites I've ever been in, hip and interesting design. Bolzano Italy - also very cool. Very unlike the obligatory red curtain thing in the US. Wish they'd bring that 4P Europe design sense over here, I'd stay with them often.

I stayed at Four Points last night near Detroit Metro Airport. Everything and I mean everything looked exactly the same way your Vancouver one did. I even had a corner room with king size bed 🙂 I would stay there again. However, I wouldn't have dinner at their restaurant again - beef stroganoff with pasta was very poor. Didnt try their breakfast as I had a 7am flight.

This property was recently renovated. I think it was actually a Category 2 before that, it was so run down.

There is also Lansdowne Mall directly across the street for those looking for convenient amenities.

The Westinghouse Wall Center is nicer, but there is nothing around the property that is easily walkable, so it's pretty isolated.

"What do you guys think — a menu writer with a good sense of humor, or just blissful ignorance?"

I explained this metaphor to a non-English speaking friend once and now she refers to every single pastry and every fashion mistake made by a plump person that we ever encounter together with a loud exclamation of "muffin!"

I'm just worried about what's going to happen when she says that to someone who is a native English speaker. If it's the writer of that menu, I guess it won't be a problem.

4p main differentiators IMO are maybe the best bed of the budget brands and their beer bars (best example of that is 4p lax but it's not well executed in many places ).

"What do you guys think — a menu writer with a good sense of humor, or just blissful ignorance?"

Well, someone who seems to not know the designation given to gay men with regards to the position they prefer during sex. I'll go with a sense of humor, but I don't think he was referring to top & bottom that way, but to something else.

I mean, the top part of a muffin is usually considered better than the bottom part. Seinfeld did a whole plot about it during one episode where Elaine and her ex-boss open a cafe that only sold the top part of the muffin. I guess they could have been referring to that?

Four Points Bangkok is a nice hotel.
Service is like a 5 star hotel.

Will echo that ones in Europe are totally different. Had enough points for one night, but was cheaper to buy points and redeem for Four Points in Munich for Oktoberfest than pay the 400 Euros per night rate. Phone agent was happy to help me "game the system" to boot.

Hotel was quite lovely and amazingly conveniently located to Oktoberfest. I feel like, anecdotally, the ones I come across in the US are all at airports.

Hi Ben,
Does Four Points offer lounges?? And can we get into the lounges with SPG business card Sheraton lounge benefits?

The hotel looks nicer than some of the dumpy full-service Sheraton hotels I've stayed at before. There's a Four Points in Saginaw, Michigan, with a full-service (albeit sports bar kind of place) restaurant attached. President Bush actually stayed there a few years back! This looks a little nicer than the Four Points San Francisco Airport that I stayed at recently. Same lovely herringbone-patterned furniture, however. Four Points is comparable to Courtyard, but perhaps the rooms are a little nicer. I think Courtyard probably has a better bistro, on the whole, compared to the average Four Points.