Review: Condor Business Class 767 Frankfurt To Whitehorse

Great review, the food looks awesome.

I hate when airlines use blue, purple or red mood lighting during meals. Or worse, the never ending rainbow craziness (you,Latam).
They should use UV lights instead...that could be grossly entertaining.

Those table clothes look very similar to the ones Virgin use in upper class

How much was the airport buy up to biz?

How much did you pay for your flight?

I flew them from BWI to Frankfurt in business a few years ago. I, too, was pleasantly surprised by the food. Agree on the seat but it’s what I expected. I’d fly them again for sure

The mood lights go well with the Elvis impersonator in the safety video!

I have done at least four transatlantic legs on Condor in biz. They are better then Norwegian premium. Service is efficient and food is good. The seats are a deal breaker for me. I will take flat on China Easten over any angled seat.

I love their safety video and do not find it offensive at all. While most characters in the video are Americans there is the Queen to counterbalance. It is funny, clever and memorable.

Hi Lucky,
I was entertained by your remark abt safety video and this link will maybe help you to understand better why they filmed safety video with that theme:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:German_Western_(genre)_films

They are not in complience with present political corrrectness but still very much part of the German film culture.

To be honest-they were the best part of my 2 more than miserable flights in DE economy a year ago.

My family of 5 used Condor on our daytime return from Europe this summer (Linate-Frankfurt-Portland). Our experience and impression was similar to yours in every aspect (including a mechanical delay with change in equipment, but only one bus ride/boarding thankfully). Agree with you that this is a great option for a daytime return from Europe (our fares were $900 each) with ~16000 AS miles earned per ticket. We had an additional problem that Condor handled well: one of our kid's seats had a malfunction (no recline); they offered a change to premium (no thanks) or a refund in difference in fare between business and premium (which we chose, to the tune of $500!).
Tried to use them again for a trip in summer 2019, but surprisingly the fares this time around were cheaper on BA compared to Condor, so we will be in the upper deck of the Queen of the Skies instead (with more AS miles to boot).

While it's a comprehensive review, if the main factor to choose Condor is price, then don't omit the most important part.

Lucky could you please explain what was offensive on the Condor safety video? I simply do not get it. I am not American that why i ask. Thanks

My husband Michael and I flew Condor from Frankfurt to Halifax last month, on October 11th. We started our trip in Athens that morning, and the cost of our Aegean Airlines flight (in economy class) and the Condor flight (in business class) totaled only 740 euros per person - which is a STEAL.

Perhaps if I flew international first class as frequently as you do Lucky, I'd be able to think-up some minor complaints about our Condor experience, but honestly, after paying far, FAR more two months ago to fly from Montreal to Paris in Air France's pathetic premium economy class (in which the 777-300 seats have no recline whatsoever), both Michael and I were hugely impressed with Condor.

Our center-section seats in row 2 were fine for us, and the inflight menu was exactly the same as yours. We thought the menu was imaginative and the food delicious (I had the veal steak). It was far better than several meals we've had up-front on Delta earlier this year.

The big difference between your flight and ours was the cabin crew. Our stewardess and two stewards were an absolute delight. One of the best crews we have ever flown with. They never stopped smiling, could not do enough for the passengers, and seemed to be having a terrific time. They were very much looking forward to a long layover in Nova Scotia and had lots of questions for those of us who live in the province.

Also in our favor, our Condor flight departed from Gate B44, just opposite the Lufthansa Business Class Lounge. Departure was on-time at 17:25 and arrival in Halifax was on-time as well at 19:55.

This was our first time using Condor, but I suspect it will not be the last.

@Fonzi
I know...it's always so interesting to learn what offends in other cultures. I will explain my take on it (I'm American).

In this case, the depiction of the Native American could be viewed by many in the US as offensive (the stereotypical costume, the pipe). The fact that he's really a white person dressed up as a Native American is also very taboo (white people dressing up like people of color is extremely offensive to many in America). In addition, the fact that the Native American is portrayed as being abruptly stopped from engaging in a "savage" behavior (i.e., smoking on a plane) by a white guy could be viewed as offensive. It touches on the whole idea of Native Americans needing to be "tamed" by white Americans, which is something which was widely believed historically. America's complicated racial history is basically the whole reason one might become offended by this. So, dressing up like an "Indian," although not as offensive as black face, certainly raises eyebrows here.

It's an interesting question you ask though for sure. That's my take on it, anyway.

Great review, thank you!

What’s wrong with the safety video?

Not sure why you're complaining about the blanket being warm? Isn't that the point of a blanket?

Matches with my experience - nothing outstandingly memorable, but an overall solid product at a very attractive price. If there’s a beautiful or interesting spot on the map, chances are high Condor will take you there directly from Frankfurt. I find it especially hilarious that thanks to them Frankfurt has significantly better connections to Anchorage than NYC (at least during summer) 🙂

A wasabi and ginger flavor appetizer cake on a flight from Germany to Canada? What's going on here? Was it any good?

Have flown three legs on DE - and all have been excellent value. Even EK has extensive use of angled-flat on their 777 200's and Condor seats were basically the same quality. I have no problem with sleeping as normally do not sleep totally flat anyway.

Worst flight was SAN-FRA - the food was awful and the crew were not much better. Must be the caterer they choose in SAN.

Food and service ex-FRA is excellent and the FRA Lufthansa lounge across from the departure gate is excellent.

I wish that Condor would offer J class on their connecting flights with other airlines. It is a shame to have to start with a 3 hour Y flight to connect to your J flight in FRA. It seems if you book on Kayak or whatever that their fares are slightly higher but will normally include a J connecting flight.

We once paid for an on-board upgrade to J and it was well worth the price to upgrade from their "premium economy".

@ORDguy, thanks for your explanation. While I suspected the reason behind the video being offensive, it's good to know it in the detail you mentioned.

From German person point of view - the two guys were representing two fictional characters Winnetou (a Native American hero of several novels written in German by Karl May; hugely popular books over here; including the movies) & the other guy is Old Firehand.
And as it happened some producer dude thought it would be great to create a parody on Winnetou & the Old Firehand, a movie called Der Schuh des Manitu (Manutu's shoe). I trully believe that Condor were only trying to do another take on the parody regarding Winnetou and Old Firehand... So from our point of view, there's nothing wrong with that.

Here I fully agree, while for us Europeans who grow up watching Winnetou movies (yes, even during Christmas time as some kind of classic), and making jokes those main characters (not because there were native americans, it was more about just silly things...that parody movie actually expresses the fun bits quite well).... so yes looking at it from and non-German/European Pax point of view, I can understand that many of the international clientele simply don't understand that bit in the Condor safety video and feel offended.

@ORDGuy

Thank you for taking the time for explanation. I wanted to write same as @Polarity.
The name is not Old Firehand but Old Shatterhand. Here in Europe the books of Karl May were quite popular and even movies been made. This is i think cultural misunderstanding. As Polaris mentioned they tried to show the funny way that smoking is not allowed. I thought you would notice that mainly ALL characters in the video who break some rules were Americans. But that came into my mind after the "deep think". But that is extreme but sometimes normal nowadays in US as i see how far can go so called political correctness.

Your reviews of non-mainstream airlines are so much fun to read and savour - such as this review of Condor! I love all the detail such as the Salt + Pepper shakers and photos of every course + reflections on each beverage. Conder fits into the exciting airlines your fascinating blog touches on such as TAAG (Angola), Air Astana and Xiamen Airlines. Safe + Happy travels!

I find these cultural differences very fascinating. I know when I travel to a new country I always do a quick google search on local cultural norms. Appearing culturally aware and adhering to local customs when I travel is super important to me. Nothing worse than inadvertently offending, or coming across as an ungracious guest. I'm absolutely positive Condor meant no offense.

@Fonzi - you are absolutely right about political correctness in the US. It's a very sensitive and complicated topic, which is definitely front and center in our national consciousness. I think we are in the process of trying to balance sensitivity/empathy and free thought/speech. It seems easy for us to go from one extreme or the other. I'm sure with successive generations it will become easier (I hope).

Can you please clarify if for Alaska Gold 75K member this you earn 425% total miles? 300% + 125% bonus due to elite status?

Would dent an AS earning route.

https://www.ft.com/content/22e02890-2bba-11e9-a5ab-ff8ef2b976c7

We flew Condor Biz class a few years ago Toronto - Frankfurt return. Both excellent flights with excellent crews. Great price and great food. Flying the same route again this June and REALLY looking forward to the experience. They offer luxury at a value price.

What a great review! I'd never heard of Condor but I saw a decent business class fare. I'll give them a try. Thanks!