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Discover Airlines Acquiring Airbus A350s In 2027 (Lufthansa Hand-Me-Downs)

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Discover Airlines is Lufthansa Group’s long haul leisure carrier based in Germany. The airline has been growing in recent years, as Lufthansa Group (unsurprisingly) sees a lot of potential with its low cost operations.

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(@shoeguy)
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Good grief. Can't Lufthansa first just fix its own fleet, which is a hot mess? The A340-300s, A340-600s, and the B747-400s should have been retired long ago. Yes, they've announced retirements but all these sub-brands that aren't flag carriers are are the core of the LH Group's problems.


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 Lee
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Spohr has stated that the strategy behind having all of these sub-brands is to break up the adverse effect that a labor strike would have on the company's finances and operations. Whether that strategy has been effective is another matter.


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 Lee
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But, I think you're right.


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(@David)
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Another episode of LH outsourcing further aircraft for cheaper labour


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(@Christian)
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The hand me down A350s have a nicer Business Class product than the majority of the LH fleet with those old crappy seats from 1990.


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 1990
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You rang? (Kidding.)


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(@Amy Jolie)
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Maybe they will fly the ex Philippine Airlines planes to Manila!

Makes sense. New destination!


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(@AeroB13a)
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Surely, even “Lufthansa Hand-Me-Downs” are better than waiting years for a suspect new Boeing?


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 MG
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Troll-bot


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(@AeroB13a)
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…. So, you don’t like the truth …. you poor unfortunate little darlink …. 🙂


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 BBT
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These ex-Phillipine A350s are such a joy to fly in. They do not have the center overhead bins, so at times can create some storage issues. But its the best J class cabin in LH livery even after the introduction of the Allegris cabin.


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Diamond
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Oh sweet irony…


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(@chris w)
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Belize City sure seems like an odd destination to fly to. Other than proximity to Caye Caulker it's a pretty awful place


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(@Alert)
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chris-w - Well , at least the speak and write English , which is far more pleasant than can be said for the rest of Latino Americano .


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(@James)
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@Alert - it must be exhausting to be this insufferable.


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I am glad to have visited Belize before it is becoming mainstream. Besides the beaches (which are not the best compared to the Caribbean) there are authentic rainforest lodges (including plenty of rain) and Mayan ruins (the road to Caracol is finally finished).
For an authentic experience I suggest a walk through “Lovely Lane” in Belize City.
People are friendly but may not be wealthy. Compared to other neighboring countries I never felt unsafe.


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(@Alert)
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"Discover" is a stupid "travel-agency" word for a German airline .

When a German finds a cute girl , the word is "Finden" . Therefore the German airline ought to be named "Finden" , and ought to employ cute girls in the cabin for the passengers to "Finden" .


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Diamond
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There’s room for improvement for your German. The most adequate translation for Discover would be “entdecken”, not “finden“.


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 Marc
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So disappointed. We’ve booked with Lufthansa for a trip to Seattle in June, now only to be told the flights are operated by Discover.
This is a huge downgrade in economy as all the promised project FOX upgrades will now be replaced with a cheap service. Paid Alcohol, no economy amenity kit and the meals are even worse.

This makes the US airlines look like a premium alternative. Auf Wiedersehen Lufty, as we will choose other airlines in the future.


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Diamond
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You don’t have to accept the rebooking. Depending on the exact circumstances and your stamina, you might even get them to rebook you on another airline.
Cancel and refund would probably not be controversial.


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(@speedbird48)
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Eventually “Lufthansa” is going to be one airplane that flies from Frankfurt to munich once a week. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Lufthansa create a “discover cities” airline or something if Discover crews ever unionize


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Diamond
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You’re onto the real reason Discover, Edelweiss, etc. even exist… Lufthansa is just trying to get around treating workers fairly. Regional and leisure subsidiaries are a form of wage dumping and labor arbitrage. Shouldn’t even be a thing. It’s a loophole.


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(@timuk)
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Given the new Discover business class is Vantage XL and the ex-Phillipines A350 are Vantage XL......surely there's no question what the new ones will be


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(@Simon Grant)
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Would you consider an article to answer my question.. How much of these offshoot brands are about reducing operating costs and how much are about resetting pax expectations?

By operating costs I refer to hard operating costs, not soft costs, in the way we use those terms in paxex. My limited knowledge is that they nothing to reduce hard operating costs, outside soft operating costs,. those that also affect paxex, such as paid products in Y etc.


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(@Exit Row Seat)
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Shall we call the Luft Group the Delta of Europa acquiring used airframes.
The fuel efficiency will surely make up for any reconfiguration cost.
Also, uniform maintenance via Luft Technik.


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(@SLC522)
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The issue with Lufthansa group is they just keep moving fleet from place to place.


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 Carl
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As a practical matter, for a UA elite status member, is there a difference in lounge access or service standards between LH and Discover on a route like SEA-FRA? It seems a bit odd for LH not to want to service SEA on their flagship airline, given that there are significant businesses in SEA that should support business travel.


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