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After Strikes, Lufthansa & Ground Staff Agree On New Contract

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Here’s some great news for both Lufthansa ground staff and passengers…

Continue reading: After Strikes, Lufthansa & Ground Staff Agree On New Contract

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(@hbilbao)
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I think 75% is a typo.


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@ hbilbao -- That should have said, 7.5%, sorry! Fixed now.


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Diamond
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US airline employees are seeing far bigger increases in compensation even as their employers work in a far more competitive environment than the LH Group.

yes, mgmt could have saved a whole lot of losses by agreeing to these raises earlier.


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The difference here was that Verdi wanted 500€ minimum wage increase instead of the actuall 280€, as well as a 12 months contract instead of 24 months.
I guess the duration was the main issue here for Lufthansa, since otherwise you could expect the same trouble again next year given the great relations between management and union.


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Diamond
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“Lufthansa being a group, we introduced a few years ago that every internal strike is allocated as cost to the labor group which goes on strike, so that has a discipline element attached to it, which in my view makes people understand that internal strikes eventually come to their own disadvantage”

How'd that work out for ya', herr Spohr?


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 Lee
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Tim, since I have you on the line . . . when does Delta expect to introduce A330s on transcon routes?

Everyone else, sorry for being off-topic.


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(@Antwerp)
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Let's see now if they open up F redemptions to a few more days out. Will be interesting if this is why they moved them to 3-days.


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Diamond
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Another win for organized labor! Never forget that your employer does not care about you at all, and would gladly throw you to the wolves for a few extra pennies.


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Not sure what markets are you asking about but
the 339 and sometimes 333 and 332 regularly fly JFK-LAX although the 763 is the primary aircraft.
ATL-SEA and SLC (not really transcon) see a variety of widebodies.
ATL-LAX is mostly A359s and narrowbodies.

I know nothing other than what is in the schedules.


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(@Icarus)
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The European market is extremely competitive and far more so than the US. Customers also protected by EC/UK261.

So called low cost carriers in the US are far more expensive than in Europe for similar distances. We have Ryanair, wizz and easy jet amongst numerous others. Ryanair carries more passengers than United and Southwest.

There’s almost no job security in the US. No mandated redundancy laws ,no sick pay, no maternity leave let alone paternity. It’s something unions fight for. And there’s also universal health care.


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 Samo
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Judging by the departure board I saw at VIE this morning, not well. Which is good for everyone else.


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the European market is highly competitive but legacy carriers have less competition from low cost carriers in their hubs than in the US.

the tax burden in Europe is much higher.
and yes there is sick pay and parental leave in some jurisdictions and under some union contracts or some direct (non-union) companies.


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 John
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While it's true that many employers don't care about employees, the thug games that unions play make them far worse in my mind. It's organized blackmail. They stop working and try to inflict damage on the source of their income. These union thugs need to die a slow death for the pain they put their employers and customers through. If you don't like your job, get a new one. If you have no actual transferable skills, shut up and be grateful for the job.


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 Samo
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This, alongside with the success of DB unions, will be a major boost for cabin crew morale and willingness to stay strong. It's clear that Carsten is starting to understand that employees are not his slaves.


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(@vlcnc)
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It's amazing these dopey comments from the likes of John - I really hope you get screwed over by your employer big time as you seem to think that's all great.


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 Tom
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What are we hearing re: LH cabin crew negotiations? That seems like the last X factor in play here.


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 Samo
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It's not the last one, even if LH CC are solved, OS CC and pilots are just getting started.


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 Lee
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Thanks


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