Etihad Eliminates Inflight Chefs, F&B Managers
Etihad has just revealed its latest cost cutting initiative, which many premium passengers won’t be happy to hear about…
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As you also said, looking at the state of the industry, it could be much worse. While it's sad for those crew members, I can understand the decision from an economic point of view. Etihad was not profitable even before the crisis, so maybe they should even see it as an opportunity to restructure and come back stronger. Nobody says that such things can't be reinstated later.
While these things are all very nice, I honestly don't think that they are so much of a differentiating factor for customers to really generate additional revenue. Even more so during this crisis, when everyone is just glad to find a half decent and operational network paired with a solid product. Bells and whistles have to look different during a pandemic, unfortunately.
Just read over the flight report from 2014 linked in your article. It feels like a different world...
I've consistently had good experiences with the Etihad chefs but always thought it was kind of a gimmick. They are limited to the ingredients on board. So it's not as if you can order oysters or foie gras if it's not in the galley. I honestly preferred the First Class on Emirates because, even though there was no chef, there was a much wider selection of food choices.
Whilst it was a fantastic luxury - in this day and age of pandemics it’s an excessive add on that I feel is unnecessary
really, who cares?
it was a bunch of silliness in the first place.
one of the mideast 3 needs to die or transform.
let's assume that it is Etihad.
...and that video that you linked is ridiculous. Robert Crandall once spoke about the silliness of caviar in first class saying that what the real market wanted was space and peace. true then and true now. what the bloggers want is not what the true revenue flyer wants.
The F&B manager did have some influence over the inflight experience but it did depend on the manager, some were poor so they haven’t helped their colleagues. A loss? Not so much.
The on board chef was a complete waste of time and money for the airline, in terms of cost, and for us as passengers in terms of experience. Great idea but it never works as they cannot possibly create a true restaurant experience in the air with so many restrictions. Don’t even think about asking for a medium rare steak as it can’t be done, much is pre-cooked on the ground, so their ability to provide what the airline claims just cannot happen.
My experience of Etihad chefs is that they wouldn’t get a job as a sous chef in an average restaurant on the ground. This isn’t just an Etihad problem as none of the airlines can do it.
I was very impressed with the customization of the food they serve last time I flew them. It was def more customized than Cathay F, JAL F, Emirates F, Singapore F, and La Premiere. It felt like I was at a one Michelin star restaurant. Sure it wasn't Michelin star level food but the effort was commendable and food was tasty. I'm sad that the customization is no longer there. Hopefully it'll be back once air travel becomes normal again.
@ Boom
Indeed, all that really should count is space and peace. Much of the overkill in service and meals is because all Airlines start with similar aircraft, use similar seat maps and seats and need to differentiate.
I wish Airlines would accommodate excellent meals in the Lounge and meals available onboard, at a lower level and let everybody sleep during night hours. (Of course, this is based on TA flights which are 7-9 hours and eastbound night flights.)
I have traveled many times in EY business class from AUH-jfk, I must say the food and benerage managers made me feel at ease, sometimes it's not just the food and wine, but the overall hospitality that you experience. Sad to see them go. There is always a different aura around them when they serve.
@Mike Horne, sorry to see your comment "The inflight chefs won't even get placed as Sous chefs on ground". Once I was in the lounge on A380, the chef even though was working in first class, we ended up chatting, he was executive Sous chef from a well reknowned hotel brand with almost 16 years experience. With what I understand, all these chefs were super talented and some of them held senior positions in their previous job. The reason they were there "as mentioned by him" was they all loved to travel.
As the kitchen galley was next to the lounge,later he also showed me how he prepared a wonderful salmon frittata and a beautiful cake from scratch.
I just hope they assign someone with good hospitality background to manage their business and first class in the future and just wish that the 380 flies again as Etihad 380 product is in no way comparable to its competition. It's simply a top product.
sorry... but who needs a fresh cake from scratch. on an airplane! because your deserve it? get real. tell the wife to have a soufflé ready when you arrive home. see how that goes.
the secret to cooking on an airplane is simple. bump to maximum temperature and then take it out early to rest.
boom.done.
@Boom
Even I can buy a cake after landing, or tell someone at home to make a souffle. But what made me appreciate is that this chef took his own initiative with passion to bake the cake in a galley from scratch to surprise an autistic child who loves a bishopnut strawberry cake. Actually it was not the cake, but how this chef actively took an initiative to make this kid smile out of surprise on an airplane.
I always thought the secret of cooking onboard an airplane was to just shove it all in and heat it to max until I saw this chef in EY cooking the food onboard using a combination oven, I don't remember the brand though but it had all the options of braising, grilling, steaming.
May be somethings that you appreciate onboard are not just with a boom.. you need to anticipate the passenger needs and act towards making it happen.
I was an inflight chef during the golden age of EY.
Most of us were well experienced and we love our job as cook/chef.
At the end of the flight it was not just to reheat your meal but also to go beyond and surprise our guests onboard.
Making a cake on an airplane without flour and baking powder is not easy if you don't have the knowledge and the passion for what you are doing.
And last but not least we were there for your safety first of all.
Cheers
The butlers are staying on. Downgraded to FJ/Butler position instead of FB/Butler.
Only people who have chefs at home knows the value of a chef on aircraft. People travelling after begging miles at counter and hogging like hell at lounge won't understand the concept.
I flew with chef, who showed me his pictures with some Michelin chef, he was working for him. @mike horne
Sadly they moved from ground to flight because on ground they get paid 2000Euros and inflight they get 6000euros plus housing plus travelling.
Every one works for money.
Yes you can ask your wife for cake after landing, just don't give her flour, baling powder, then u will enjoy the hot slurry .
Waiting for ur wife's cake pic. @boom
People travelling in economy will always find paying money useless, cz that's the thing they don't have MONEY and taste buds.
