Is the Indonesian government preventing Emirates from flying the Airbus A380 to Bali to further its aviation agenda? One report suggests so, but I’m a little suspicious (thanks to Lee for flagging this)…
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Clearly you have not dealt with the Indo DGCA - thus absolutely happened. It is not the first, certainly won’t be the last. Ask Virgin Australia, HKExpress, SIA Group and China Airlines.
I didn’t know it was because civil aviation authorities played a hand. People said it was just because of low demand, and service will be reinstated in time for Northern Summer. This… isn’t at all surprising, though
Indonesia is practically thug country. You go there, you want to do business and benefit the local economy, but a bunch of thugs demand you pay tribute just because you’re on their turf. Best Emirates take their A380 and all the passengers that come with it to other destinations
Indonesia is on track to be in the top 10 if not the top 5 world economies by 2050. It's previous president strong-armed the world's nickel sector (which accounts for a big chunk of revenue of the country) into forbidding the export of non-refined ore, forcing the mining companies to invest heavily in the country. They will not be afraid of Emirates.
I think this is a brilliant move saying : "Either you employ local staff, or we don't give you more access". And given the geopolitical position of UAE at the moment, I think the timing is right for such demands.
Don't give Nigeria any ideas... this is exactly the sort of nonsense that they're all about.
It’s blackmail, as simple as that. On the contrary, Emirates will not really be afraid of them, especially when the country is essentially blackmailing them into hiring local pilots. Look at Indonesia’s safety record and that of their pilots, vs pilots from UK, US, EU, Canada, Australia etc…there is a reason why expat pilots of certain countries are favoured, and it boils down to statistics and safety standards. Plain and simple.
An interesting predicament Ben, I will seek the advice from some of my local friends who might have an alternative view to share.
Great use of “Yowzers,” Ben. It’s like an enhanced “wowza”… I’d’ve added an ‘oof’ and a ‘bah’ but I think you got the job done.
As for Indonesia, yeah, I get trying to support your own people, but, also, isn’t this self-defeating, as airlines bringing more tourists is good for the local economy, too. Other airports? Which? Labuan Bajo can barely receive ATR72s. C’mon. DPS, CGK are it.
I mean, it’s not like Garuda’s gonna start flying nonstop to the US, are they? Talk about a 20 hour flight…
They could add Medan, or Surabaya. The pilot number seems low, of course they could be rostered globally (not sure how easy it is to get them crew visa to most destinations) but also why not have crew rostered predominantly on Indonesia/Malaysia flights when they speak Bahasa and can interact with local passengers in their native tongue.
I don’t know why you’d be surprised by Indonesia being a country that would do stuff like this? They have very protectionist policies in many sectors, including bans on raw material exports, and local content requirements. I’d say this is very on-brand,
I want Emirates statement on this issue rather than speculating. My knowledge of SE Asia suggests most maintenance is handled in Malaysia, not sure if there is a need for expansion?
Occasional VFTW commenter 'Jack the ladd' usually has a 'hot take' on Indonesia, but I don't think he frequents OMAAT, regrettably.
January is low-season in Bali (rains, usually, south of equator that time of year, as I am sure you know already). Would be interesting if this 'embargo' of the a380 lasts into the peak-season.
Oh no... my vacation to Lagos is ruined... how will I get my delicious jollof now... *sigh*
Not sure genius is the word I'd use. If you have to strongarm an airline like Emirates into hiring more of your nationality it kind of implies they're not very strong performers in the first place.
This looks fishy not because of the Indonesian government, but because of the pressure from other airlines unable to fill their own planes to capacity because of passengers preference to experience the A380, hence ditching other aircrafts. And only Emirates can fill an A380 to capacity on this route.
This is 100% correct and typical of the indonesian government, they want to look like they are in control and make ridiculous demands like this.
As an expat that lives in Jakarta I see it every day, they want to control everything from minimum and maximum domestic airfares, price of rice, chillies, everything.
If you do well in business they will make up something and end up owning the company and the original owner gets nothing.
Billions of dollars are leaving this country because of corruption and the never ending bs from the government.
Many many foreign companies have already left.
So much potential here, but unfortunately I dont think it will change
Yes exactly, dont get me started on the ormas .....
Palm oil - government now controls / owns 60+% of the market. Just reclasify the land from agriculture to Forrest, send the military in, take the business and continue like nothing happened.
So many industries all exactly the same
LMCK, thank you for echoing what thinking people believe to be true of the current UK Labour government. Numpties of the world united it seems …. 🙂
There is a British expression, which a UK audience will understand:
"Handbags!"
Indonesia is the most populous Muslim country on Earth. No wonder they don't want this fat, waddling pig flying into its country. Pork is haram.
Getting flashbacks to the time India blocked Singapore Airlines from flying their A380s into the country.
"this guy doesn’t seem to understand that pilots don’t work specific routes, so it’s not like the Dubai to Bali route would always be worked by Indonesians, etc."
OK, I understand how to please your readers you have to come out against DEI, but if Qatar with a smaller fleet has 90 Indonesian pilots, don't you think it's likely that most of their Indonesian routes would have an Indonesian pilot most of the time? Are you just assuming that the Gulf airlines use the same seniority system for crew assignments, that US airline unions have negotiated?
Agree with you the new Indonesia President Pak Prabowo and the Bali Governor Pak Koster don t like foreigners, either tourists or investors, which is starting to affect the Indonesian economy.
Perhaps they don’t want to add them if it’s not commercially viable. They could, on the other hand, offer say 3 x weekly DXB - KNO -SUB -DXB.
This is how Indonesia works. They have just done the same think to Shell's retail business in Indonesia. Sovereign risk when doing business in this country is real
come on Air Canada got the GOVT to limit Emirates flights to Canada. Dubai then cancelled Canadas ability to use the Dubai airbase so Canada spent almost $1 billion moving it.
Bali is overpopulated with tourists anyway, so Indonesia can afford it, probably Bali will benefit too. They can come with other planes anyway. PTDI do make parts for Airbus 380, so Indonesia do have the capability.
Shell, BP and Vivo all have no fuel! For 6-8 months, they need to apply for a quota again or wait until next year.
They ran out because the state owned Pertamina got caught selling watered down fuel.
The government's solution, cancel all import fuel permits and buy from the state owned company.
I'm an expat living in East Java...this sounds like a "shake down" of the airline..asking Emirates to hire a few Indonesia people or lose access to Bali. This happens to every company in Indonesia.... especially those that are profitable. Look what is happening in the Indonesia stock market...stock spoofing , insider trading...opaque stock ownership structure.....foreign investors have been ripped off for years. MSCI wants to downgrade the Indonesia stock market to Frontier Market....because of all the stock scams.
Its just lawlessness in Indonesia. No accountability.
I often fly the Surabaya to Singapore route on AirAsia, Scoot or JetStar (no longer flying to Surabaya) and it's 99% of the time..a western pilot or a Singapore pilot...and flight attendants are always Singaporean. Garuda Airlines has only Indonesia staff....but the flights are overpriced and not competitive...and the airplane flies with 70% empty seats on the Surabaya to Singapore routes...and they fly the best time slots ...in the morning. Foreign airlines have the night and late night time slots...
Their country their rules, u don't have to agree but surely u have to behave when you are a guest. So, unless u familiar with south east asia culture & tradition like in yr bone & blood, then yr post was just prejudiced.
Why do you think Jetstar is like a 'rash' all over Bali airport. They committed to a Bali slave wages base(sorry, cabin crew base)with a minimum of 500 cabin crew to get extra landing slots!!! Can't beat them, join them!!!!
Indonesia has had a track record of aviation protectionism. Singapore Airlines was prevented from flying B747s on the SIN-CGK route as they felt that Garuda did not have the equipment to compete in terms of capacity as well as on the hard product. Thus, for many years, SQ would fly the B777s (9x daily) while GA would fly B737s (10x daily) on a very congested route.
Then in the late 2010s, SQ announced they would be launching a fifth-freedom CGK-SYD route which would eventually come to nothing due to regulations.
This is common logic in certain parts of the world. Another classic is government moaning about old or small aircraft (we want the bestest!), wrong airport or wrong terminal. Airlines generally make decisions based on financial factors and fleet availability, not what some pompous minister thinks would fit his image of glamour, or other factors related to the human anatomy of men.
Yes, it’s always a man.
Vannacht heeft Emirates met een A380 vanuit Dubai naar Bali gevlogen. Vermoedelijke was dit enkel een tijdelijke schrapping owv het laagseizoen.