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Delta Air Lines Bans Emotional Support Animals

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In early December 2020, the US Department of Transportation issued a final ruling regarding emotional support animals (ESAs), allowing airlines to no longer accommodate emotional support animals if they don't want to. Alaska Airlines recently became the first major US airline to announce a ban on emotional support animals, and then American Airlines, Southwest Airlines,…

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(@endre-3)
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All our entitled, white millennials with self-diagnosed anxiety issues can’t bring their emus for free? Delta and the like need to get canceled!


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(@Sir Boonbuckle)
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@Endre

I'm not usually one to agree with you, but +1.

It's sad how younger generations (generally) behave.


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(@eryfol)
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Yes, the winter flights from NYC-MIA with 75% preboarding as disabled are just full of young millennials and their little sniveling, sh*tt*ng purse poodles. /s


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 Dnc
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Gee, thanks for the racist comment Endre. What a way to start a new beginning for 2021. Had you just used the term millennial by itself your point would have better received. While I agree that hopefully the days of having to sit beside a wide array of wildlife are over I don't feel that this forum is a place for racist comments.


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(@khatl)
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This will reduce the volume, as most people will read and interpret the policy as it is, without reading the details. Those that are determined to milk the system for their benefit with no valid medical or similar need will continue to do so.

Next up, to the comment above, let's see the airlines do something about all those milking the system for pre-boarding vs those that genuinely have a need (and likely frustrating / getting in the way of those that have such a need)


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 Trey
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When a 2 year old kid can get thru the flight w/ a small teddy bear but a grown man needs a 50-lbs peacock...


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(@daninnyc)
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OMG What will single Millennial woman do for companionshp now?


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 Rav
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Can you translate what this means for if you're just flying with your pet because you're moving or going somewhere for an extended period of time?
Is the whole schtick with the emotional support animal so that people didn't have to pay or didn't have to worry if there were already other animals on the same flight?
This is confusing.


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 Dave
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People should be forced to submit real (not self issued) documentation regarding the service dog. A document issued by a psychiatrist who attests the medical need for the animal PLUS an affidavit to the DOT under the penalty of perjury.


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(@Widerightv)
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It's about time


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(@vector)
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@Ernest "OMG What will single Millennial woman do for companionship now?" Steely Dan


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(@santastico)
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The snowflake generation will need to leave their polar bear at home.


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(@Fed UP)
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ESA have been a joke from day 1. It was accelerated when the airlines placed more restriction and upped the fees for transport in the cargo hold. Given the drama and trama of flying, especially during COVID... if you are that emotionally fragile, you shouldn't be on an airline right now... Even post COVID, the entire experience will be terrible, with no service, and even more restrictions...


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Diamond
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It is very unfortunate that TPG and OMAT continue to tell people how to unethically bypass all the well thought out rules that the DOT have brought into play to restrict the sham of "support animals" in the cabin.

Very few pets are actually "support" - this is just a way to bring onboard an animal for free that should be either left behind or in the hold.

It is irresponsible for all these pets to be in the cabin. In the case of an emergency not only will the idiots grab their luggage from the overhead but the dogs will be underfoot or possibly creating a disturbance of their own. Purely from a safety aspect pets should be banned from the cabin.

Rightly the DOT says keep the cabins free of superfluous animals. Deliberately violating these rules should have serious consequences.


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(@The Colonel)
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I've seen hunters bring their hunting dogs on board as their emotional support animal. Too cheap to just pay the fee to get the dog onboarding. I saw had a neighbor once sitting in first class with her emotional support poodle in her lap. Its just a scam by cheap people. They'll catch on to the psychiatrist support animal quickly.


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 M
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I have to say that some of these comments are a bit offensive. I have smaller white dog that, based on the biased assumptions above, would be considered a fluff poodle for a pathetic female millennial. What you all do not know, and blatantly make false & unfair assumptions about, is that my dog is in fact a service animal for me due to chronic health issues. I previously had her professionally trained to be a therapy dog for elderly and hospitals but, after living alone in nyc and having health issues, I trained her to perform specific tasks if I fell ill. She has been my savior many times. What bothers me about these comments is that you all are making generalizations based on nothing. If you were to look at me, you would assume I was one of those single, female millennials. Just don’t judge ... be grateful for your health and put out good energy.


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 Timo
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Delta...leading from behind.


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(@Cheryl)
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Just because you can't "see" someone's psychiatric disability, you shouldn't assume that they are pretending to need a service dog, that's like seeing someone that doesn't have an "obvious"
physical disability and assuming their handicap
placket is a scam. There will always be people that try to beat the system, but you should give everyone the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.


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 Ash
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A lot of these comments are very ignorant. Yes, some people take advantage of the situation, as typically happens when people think they can get away with it. The small "fluffy" dogs are the only ones you be seeing on the planes since those are the only ones that fit under the seat.

As for people putting down millennials as entitled and all sorts of ignorant comments. We have been one of the most economically unlucky generations, and many people forget, the majority of Millennials are not inheriting a trust fund, just the ones that are "social media famous" which is by far the minority. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/05/27/millennial-recession-covid/
I myself have now been affected by not just 1 but 2 massive recession in 2008 when I graduated from college (which I paid for myself and have finally been able to pay off) and couldn't get a professional job, and now during COVID when women are being disproportionately hit by lay offs. So in 2008 had to bartend for over a year (being sexually harassed by drunken a$*holes on a daily basis) till people were hiring again. So glad I listened to the generations before us that told us we had to go to college to get a decent job. This is actually only true for a handful of jobs by the way; I've only actually been asked about my college education once in an interview, in my over 10 years in the work force.
I'm glad all your male privilege has given you the belief that you are the expert on other generations and sexes obstacles and life styles. Get a F***ing clue, or better yet, just stop giving comments on things you clearly know nothing about!


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Diamond
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@ash

Unfortunately I have to take some exception to your comment "The small “fluffy” dogs are the only ones you be seeing on the planes since those are the only ones that fit under the seat."

If that statement was true not very many people would object. I perhaps have flown a bit more than you over the last 50 years and have never seen a small fluffy dog. But I have seen Collies, Shelties and Labradors. And certainly not in first class , but in restricted seating like on Condor for example. If you have ever been seated in 30" seat pitch when the person behind has a Lab stuffed into their footspaceas well as their feet then you would understand how uncomfortable that is for the person in front on a 10 hour flight. If you think kids kicking the seat back is fun, try sharing it with a fully grown dog and owner.

If someone is paying for a pet onboard there is a size restriction but there is no size restriction on support animals. That's another reason we hate those that bend the rules for themselves - being generally from the 'entitled generation'.

My generation also graduated when there were less jobs than graduates. It's tough and we certainly have all experienced rotten 'first jobs' that we hated but endured until something decent opened up.

It sounds like you now have a better life so I wish you well.


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