There’s often some confusion about which American Airlines wide body jets have which business class seats. In this post, I’d like to provide a rundown of which seats you should expect to find in business class on various long haul flights. I figure this is an especially good time to look at this, given that…
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The Safran Concept D is a terrible seat. The Collins seat is excellent and still looks crisp and modern.
Your standards are slipping 1990 …. your post is moving away from the usual ’Ben-like’ tone and towards the more base language of some of Eskimo’s muckers …. 🙂
I eliminated AA long haul from my travels a few years ago. And, given the explosion in AA long haul point prices, I don't see me ever returning.
Any idea why AA 45 (CDG-JFK) got shifted from 11.30am to 9.15am [starting Dec 20th]?
That’s a very early departure time from Paris.
AA's greatest accomplishment w/ its international network is that they don't fly narrowbodies on routes that should be widebodies.
They are also replacing their 321Ts with XLRs so will have a pretty consistent business class product across their entire narrowbody and widebody fleet.
just as is true w/ the other airline w/ a hub at ORD, AA can't turn its fleet attributes into anything more than bottom of the big 3 profitability.
Be that as it may, AA's long-haul fleet is in shambles and is also totally uncompetitive. Retiring the 763s was the worst thing they could have done.
Maintenance will become burdensome over the next few years. Do yourself a favor and check the seat moves into bed mode as soon as you board. That sometime in the “first half of 2026” rollout with the new business class seat ; we’ve all heard that before.
AeroB13a, Eskimo is correct, looking just at last year it won Premium Seat of the Year (lie-flat/angle-flat category) through Skytrax.
I don't love the Safran Concept D seats on the 788. Each forward-facing seat is connected to a rear-facing seat and you can feel every time the person in the connected seat moves.
The head of AA network planning is named Znotins. Drop him an email. His handiwork started the ball rolling with my departure from AA.
"Your standards are slipping 1990"
Agreed. Must be upset about club lines and mileage devaluation.
"Every aircraft ready to fly at the start of every day." That slogan hasn't quite panned out.
@RB
AA seems to have made major schedule adjustments to many flights. When you find out, please let me know.
I am restricted to flying them on business and they have adjusted all three of my ex-DCA trips booked for early next year by up to 5 hours on some legs. I have had to cancel all trips and now in the process of rebooking them as some went from 75mins connecting times to 3+ hours. No body has time for that foolishness.
Russ,
AA's 767 fleet was not well-maintained and had poor dispatch reliability.
DL and UA will get another 5-8 years out of their 767-300s; some of AA's 763s were younger than DL and UA's 764s but nearly all are 25+ years old now.
Don't confuse having a smaller international fleet with not being the right strategy; AA has struggled to make money on its international network and that has not changed - esp. since AA hiked pay for all of its workgroups, something that UA has yet to do - following DL.
AA, as it has for decades, believes that a new fleet type will help fix its international system; this time it will be the 321XLR after leaning into the 788 which was supposed to be a replacement for the 763s - but the 788 is a high CASM widebody due to being fairly new and also small. I'm not sure that the XLR will change much in terms of economics but AA has done as good of a job as possible in recognizing the need to update its cabins.
If you find yourself in a concept D seat there are a few that are not connected to another, eliminating that rocking. But I agree, it’s not my first choice. Super diamond is one of the best seats out there.
If you find yourself in a concept D seat there are a few that are not connected to another, eliminating that rocking. But I agree, it’s not my first choice. Super diamond is one of the best seats out there.
Just because you don't like the facts that are pretty easily verifiable doesn't mean they aren't true.
but go ahead and debate them one by one if you would are certain you are right and I am wrong.
and, Merry Christmas to you too, Russ
Flew the new Adient Ascent with AA the normal outbound and the front row larger seat on the way back. Yes it is a very good seat though not sure the larger seat would be worth the extra cost (when they start charging more) unless you are a large person though you do get two sets of bedding and a better goodies bag. Personally I find the BA Club Suite a better product for two main reasons. Firstly I think there is more storage in BA, there is only one small compartement on the surface of AA versus two on BA and other storage is also more limited on AA. My other issue with AA is which wizard decided to put the headphone jack point in the compartment that holds the headphones making it difficult to close when they are connected. You can force it closed but why not just have the connection surface mounted.
All of American's business class seats are better than Delta's seats. United provides some competition.