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US airlines are in the process of getting $50 billion in aid from the government. One of the conditions of accepting that aid is that they have to promise not to lay off any employees through at least September 30, 2020. Therefore the goal for airlines right now is to get employees to voluntarily take…

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(@craiginnc)
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Once the details of the CARES Act filter through the system I suspect the unpaid voluntary part will cease. Especially when employees (of any business) realize that the government will fund their payroll. In some instances with the new $600/week boost in UI lower end employees might find it easier to accept the benefits than try to hang on to their job. Unless you make more than $50K a year $600 is close to take home for most people in those kind of jobs. The question I have is in jobs that accrue seniority (like attendants and pilots) if you terminate your employment and are rehired later does your seniority clock reset or ? That might be a big question for mid career personnel who might not want to leave the industry when business picks back up.


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 Ed B
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Delta offered 25% pay cuts or Unpaid leave. The high take rates have nothing to do with good employee relations, it was either "make significantly less or find another job to make the same".


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(@Biz Guy)
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Hate to see them not skirting the law.


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(@Cap'n Bo)
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Delta employees actually care about the success of the company once all of this is over. Leadership has done a good job of getting employees to understand there is an ending at some point in the unknown future. With that said, they are putting together an early retirement package, it just hasn't come out yet. I'm sure they were waiting to release after the CARES Act was approved.


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(@April)
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Sure wish you would get your facts straight!
Employees taking one month leaves are not getting ANY compensation. Period!


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(@Lynne)
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As a 32 year flight attendant with AAL I have taken a voluntary leave of absence for one month. I will not be compensated for any of this time off and I will be responsible for my benefits as well.
Check your facts!!!


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(@AAnonymous)
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This article is correct, Lynne. 31-year veteran AA international purser here. I’m on leave as well. April is unpaid. Starting in May, leaves for flight attendants will be paid the 25%. I’m taking it, since I don’t want to be involved in the chaos of air travel right now. That scares me more than the virus.


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 Jr
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Hmmm..so who.is right, Lynne or Aanonymous?


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 Mark
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"but now airlines are getting a good chunk of employees to take leave or accept an early out. Presumably the airline is pocketing the difference, or using it towards something else."

Really shouldn't matter, the American taxpayer will be made whole.


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(@Aa agent)
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April and Lynne, check your company email. AAnonomous is right and you can apply for paid VLOA even though you accepted unpaid VLOA.


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(@AAnonymous)
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Jr, both of us are correct, but Lynne’s comment needed clarification. For April, if you took a leave, you’re responsible for paying for your share for healthcare, dental, vision, union dues, etc. I’ll be paying for that out of my own pocket. The leaves offered for May and later, provided that you take either a 3 month, 6 month or 1 year leave, you’ll be paid at about 25% of your pay, and will continue with health benefits, sick time and vacation accrual. Perhaps she was unaware of the new offer. I suspect NO ONE wanted to take the original offer of no pay at all.


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 Jim
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Not only is Delta not paying for temporary leaves they are actually cutting the ground employees hours by 25 percent right in the face of the Cares Act stating no cuts in employee PAY RATES.


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 Rob
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Moot point now. AA management rescinded the offer of short-term leaves of absence for all B737 and A320 pilots with no explanation.

These leaves make particular sense for pilots because it also includes ways for them to maintain their currency and training requirements. If these were to lapse, because of a long term leave or furlough, the retraining and reintegration logistics and costs would be much more significant.


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(@dianne-moen)
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If I take the 25% VLOA can I get unemployment benefits from the lose of wages?


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(@craiginnc)
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@Dianne you might. My wife is with United and she is quarantined for 14 days due to her being on international routes. When this is over she may qualify for reimbursement for that time plus. As I have come to understand UI is available both to people who have completely lost their job/pay and those who have suffered a reduction in hours. All you can do is apply. Remember Federal regulations per the CAREs Act will supersede state regulations so don't worry if your state website shows something different at the moment. The only ? is if the VLOA stipulates no outside benefits or the Feds have that requirement too. It may work a bit like disability you might get denied at first but have to apply a time or two to get in. Good Luck.


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(@casual delta observer)
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The employees at Delta are not doing this for the love of Delta. They are taking leaves because they are scared of contracting Covid19 and or giving it to there family. I personally know several Dal flight attendants, and ZERO of them are doing it for Delta. The Delta management team has been on a ...Startegic Communication... campaign for several years in attempt to develop a Delta Family. However, its all talk. Management has made at least 200m in the last 5 years. Have they offered any of their personal fortune to protect Delta employees, which make their fortune, to help with masks? NO

If you like Delta , please spread the truth to help all the Delta Employess.


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 Drew
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Delta casual observer, pleas get your facts right before posting. The CEO has forfeited his salary for six months and most employees have take LOA because it works for them and it does help saves the company. 20,000 employees


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(@Anonymous)
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Alaska Is also offering just the pilots a 50+ TFP paid to stay at home and the flight attendants unpaid leave.


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(@Anonymous)
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How can we be sure that CEO forfeited salary 6months. To make us feel better about giving up 25%pay. or having retirement push down our throats. They will get it back in some way we will never no about. Senior employees are afraid of retribution at work if they don’t take retirement now.


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