The past day has been really rough for Delta Air Lines at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport (ATL), with a ton of very unhappy passengers (thanks to Ben and Scudder for flagging this).
In this post:
Atlanta Airport & Delta struggle amid hail storm, strong winds
On the evening of Friday, March 6, 2026, Atlanta Airport faced some rough weather, which impacted operations. Specifically, the airport saw a hail storm and then strong winds. This initially caused the ramp to be closed, limiting arrivals and departures. However, the air traffic control tower was also eventually evacuated, causing flights to be suspended.
While the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) had put a ground stop in place, the issues persisted for Delta for much longer than that, as the airline voluntarily maintained a ground stop due to not being able to recover from its operations.
Atlanta is of course a fortress hub for Delta, as it’s the carrier’s biggest hub, and for that matter, it’s the busiest airport in the United States. Given that this all happened during one of the carrier’s evening bank of flights, this all become incredibly unpleasant for passengers.
Many flights bound for Atlanta had to divert to other airports, given conditions in Atlanta. But as you’d expect, this causes a massive ripple effect. Atlanta Airport is busy during the best of times, but then actually recovering when things go wrong is extremely complex.
What ended up happening is that a countless number of travelers got stuck on Delta aircraft for very long periods of time. In some cases, flights were stuck on the tarmac at other airports for hours. On top of that, though, many planes landed in Atlanta, only for there to not be sufficient gates or resources to deplane people. The operation also started to recover a bit more very late at night, when staffing was limited.
So at that point this just becomes a massive jigsaw puzzle. Just to give one random example of what a mess this was, take Delta’s flight from San Juan (SJU) to Atlanta, DL1882. It was scheduled to depart at 3:55PM, and arrive at 7:03PM.
The plane ended up diverting to Huntsville (HSV). It took off from there at 1:22AM, landed in Atlanta at 2:49AM, and then passengers could finally deplane at 4:48AM. And there are plenty of reports of people sitting on planes in Atlanta for even longer than that. Still, a delay of 10 hours is very rough.
Travelers are absolutely furious with Delta
It goes without saying that the weather conditions that caused this issue were outside of Delta’s control. Furthermore, the airline industry is challenging, and having a smooth recovery from these kinds of situations isn’t so easy.
However, passengers are exceptionally unhappy with the way the airline has handled this meltdown, with Reddit users sharing their experiences. Regardless of how complicated it is, the Department of Transportation (DOT) does have a tarmac rule, whereby airlines have to let passengers on domestic flights off planes within three hours during an extended delay.
That’s a hard and fast rule, and there are no carve-outs for situations where a recovery is complicated. There are many reports of passengers being trapped on planes on the ground for more than three hours without having the ability to deplane, so Delta could be looking at some pretty significant fines.
Bottom line
A hail storm and strong winds caused major operational issues yesterday in Atlanta, which obviously disproportionately impacted Delta. While the issues sound bad in the first place, unfortunately Delta’s recovery made the situation even worse.
There are endless stories of people being trapped on planes for many hours, as the airport was overwhelmed with flights, while having limited staffing. Delta could be looking at some fines from the DOT, for violating the rules around allowing passengers to deplane.
If you’re scheduled to fly Delta in the coming days, don’t be surprised if it takes some time for operations to fully recover.
Were any OMAAT readers impacted by this Delta meltdown in Atlanta?
This was an absolute complete shit show. I am a very understanding person a very calm person and I never got mad during this whole incident even though my flight with Delta was canceled flying out of here and they rebooked us. We ended up missing our entire Sunday of our trip because we couldn’t get another flight out until late that night we almost missed picking up a rental car due to the only...
This was an absolute complete shit show. I am a very understanding person a very calm person and I never got mad during this whole incident even though my flight with Delta was canceled flying out of here and they rebooked us. We ended up missing our entire Sunday of our trip because we couldn’t get another flight out until late that night we almost missed picking up a rental car due to the only flight they could put us on was a late one, but I accepted it and I moved on didn’t get mad about it wasn’t their fault wasn’t our fault don’t know what happened. Things happen, however, on our way back from our trip we landed in Atlanta right before the storms hit we got delayed expected we got delayed again Fair that’s still expected. We were delayed again and again, to be expected would rather be safe than sorry however, finally hours went by. We were told that we were going to board our plane now they finally had a crew we got on the plane we were on the plane for probably 30 to 45 minutes before the pilot had to come on and tell us that he was timing out and unfortunately we were all going to have to get off of the plane when originally the pilot had come on and told us we were gonna be taking off after maintenance was done doing their check well 20 minutes later he came back on and said unfortunately maintenance was not getting the check done in time before he timed out so they ended up canceling so we had to get off the plane. I would like to be very clear this was not the pilot‘s fault. We spent the night in the airport because Delta employees in Atlanta airport were absolutely cruel and I am just gonna say I’ve seen this several different times not just during this scenario. My husband and I have sat back and watched Delta employees treat all of their passengers like complete garbage in that Airport. People were actually staying very calm. We were standing in a line for over four hours to get rebooked, we all accepted it. It was fine. Everybody around us was understanding. Hey this sucks but you know it is what it is. It’s out of their control. It’s out of our control. We’re gonna stand in this line. We’re gonna get rebooked as we stood in this line. We watched several several Delta employees at the gates at the service desk flight attendant treat their passengers like complete garbage when the passengers were being nothing but understanding and nice to them. They truly were. I did not see anyone that I observed being right or throwing any kind of a fit, except for the delta employees they were frustrated at us for something that was not our fault just like it was not their fault so why did the passengers who were paying and ended up being the one stranded with nowhere to go being treated like garbage when the passengers were being nothing but nice to the employees I witnessed this myself for almost 28 hours in this airport.
I also witnessed on the plane that the pilot was trying to get maintenance to finish up for him so he could takeoff a passenger having a medical emergency. Passengers around him Were trying to get the flight attendant to come to him to help him because he was having a diabetic issue and he couldn’t get off the plane and everyone else was already almost off, except for the back end of it and the flight attendant refused to even go check on him or talk to him she stood in the back of the plane instead tell somebody else tell somebody upfront and that’s all she kept repeating wouldn’t even walk toward him. She was only maybe eight steps away from him. She wouldn’t even check on the man the guy behind him who I was sitting behind, opened up his energy, Red Bull drink, and gave it to this man who is having a diabetic episode because the flight attendant would not even attend to him or even check on him. The passengers went and got him whatever they could get him that they had on them Red Bulls orange juice, whatever they could give this man to help him because the flight attendant we’re not concerned didn’t care about him. Didn’t check on him. The one even said tell somebody else that’s how these passengers got treated during this so overall I don’t think it’s about the cancellations. Yeah people were frustrated probably yeah they missed you. Know appointments or vacations or whatever you know we were frustrated, but there was nothing we could do about it. We accepted it. We knew it wasn’t the employee’s faults just like it was not our fault but delta treated all these passengers and again I was in this airport for over 48 hours during this timeframe and I watched Delta treat these passengers like garbage. And not a one of these passengers that I witnessed being treated this way, raise their voice or got irate or said anything bad to any of these delta employees the delta employees were just straight up, cruel, specially, especially to the elderly people that didn’t understand what was going on and couldn’t use the technology on their phone to follow what was happening I watched so many elderly people not know what to do because nobody would help them. My husband and I and another couple started helping these older people by checking flights for them and check and telling them where to go and giving them directions because the Delta employees if you walked up to one even if they weren’t busy at the time because there wasn’t no flights going nowhere so they weren’t really doing anything. They would just wave you away and say everybody’s got questions go away. We don’t wanna hear it. that’s what I’m frustrated about. I’m not mad that I got stuck in the airport. I’m not mad that my flight got canceled my second flight. I’m not mad that I got rebooked on a late late flight that I really would prefer not to take and missed a whole day of my vacation I’m not mad about all these things I can get over them very very easily cause I understand and I empathize and I sympathize so I get it. I understand. I’ve worked in customer service. I understand when someone’s being irate with you, and you’re trying to explain things to them that you end up, trying to having to match their energy that is not what was happening. These passengers were just being very calm actually for the situation and the Delta employees were the problem. They were absolutely rude. I will never Fly Delta again and I will avoid Atlanta airport at all cost anytime that I can because these Delta employees in the Atlanta airport were absolutely ridiculous. Would not even help a man having a medical issue treating elderly people that could barely walk that we’re having to stand in these lines for four and five hours had nowhere to go no hotels available even if you paid for it yourself because Delta sure as hell wasn’t going to even if you paid for it yourself there was nowhere to go. These elderly people were sitting in these chair chairs just trying to figure out how they were gonna get home and the Delta employees could’ve cared less they didn’t care about anyone. They really did not care about anyone. I even heard one employee say I’m going home. It’s my time to go home. My eight hours are up. Well it must be nice that you have somewhere to go while all these people in here are stranded and all they wanna do is ask a couple of questions and you tell them pretty much that they could F off. .
To sum it up: DL is an overrated airline that talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk when things go pear shaped.
We all agree with you. Except one notable wanker.
how quickly we forget what EWR looked like not just one week ago last year but also 2 years before as well.
Or DFW on any number of occassions.
when these hubs work well, they move masses of people well.
When it all falls apart - usually because of weather - it is downright miserable.
Anyone that thinks what this guy experienced - right or wrong, that is not the point - hasn't happened and won't happen in other hubs is seriously detached from reality.
Shame, really. Hard to believe just how much social capital they've been willing to piss away lately.
My data point on this was that my ONT-ATL on Sat was cancelled. The objectionable part was that:
1) I was not automatically rebooked and the responsibility was dumped on me to figure out a way home. Delta only offered to refund me if I didn't rebook myself within 24 hours?!
2) I manually found a flight out of BUR (after checking all of the half dozen SoCal airports) with a much longer drive...
My data point on this was that my ONT-ATL on Sat was cancelled. The objectionable part was that:
1) I was not automatically rebooked and the responsibility was dumped on me to figure out a way home. Delta only offered to refund me if I didn't rebook myself within 24 hours?!
2) I manually found a flight out of BUR (after checking all of the half dozen SoCal airports) with a much longer drive coming from the Indian Wells tennis tournament
3) I tried to call into the main line (not SkyPriority after recently dropping from Plat Medallion to Gold to now Silver because DL never upgrades with their aggressive first class monetization), I was told my wait would be >2 hours AND they disabled their usual option to call me back???
4) I also tried to chat first with the AI bot then waited for a CSR multiple times to connect but no CSR ever joined and my chat session kept getting cut off even after trying to keep the chat active with the occasional "hello"???
Bottom line, it was a total crap show. Thanks for nothing DL!!!
Was stuck at ATL for 20 hours, and was routed to 8 different gates, loaded on a plane, waiting 1.5 hours, unloaded from plane.......was horrific!
yeah every time i see an update on this i can't help but think this whole debacle was an inexcusably miserable experience for those caught up in it - sorry you had to deal with that!
TD, “…focus on the big picture.”
Says Mr. Change-the-subject. Check the title of this article.
Word is DL is still having trouble with its clunky IT/process that offers crews premium pay and they withdrew a pilot-favorable contractual provision that restores days off due to reassignments. Sounds like the GE guy is bringing old school labor relations to DL. What could go wrong? Six sigma anyone?
you can chase this article onto the 4th page of OMAAT's site but the bottom line is still the same.
You incessantly focus on trying to find fault w/ DL so you can toot UA's horn and yet DL CONSISTENTLY over significant periods of time outperforms UA and the rest of the industry on a complete and balanced set of metrics.
There are multiple studies that track measurable airline operations and they all come...
you can chase this article onto the 4th page of OMAAT's site but the bottom line is still the same.
You incessantly focus on trying to find fault w/ DL so you can toot UA's horn and yet DL CONSISTENTLY over significant periods of time outperforms UA and the rest of the industry on a complete and balanced set of metrics.
There are multiple studies that track measurable airline operations and they all come up w/ a formula that includes ALL of the metrics over significant periods of time that are at least a month and generally a year.
It isn't even clear using pubilcly available data that DL did any worse than its peers over the weekend.
UA mainline cxld 18% flights today right off the bat while for DL it was 25 which has a much larger number of mainline flights.
and yet you somehow think that DL has a problem while ignoring what UA is doing.
IOW, you are a poop-flinging network.
You incessantly cherrypick out mainline flights while ignoring regional jets while also ignoring that UA's baggage handling is the worst in the industry.
No one in real life fixates on any metric so long that they lose the big picture - but you prove you don't live in real life.
and, once again, it is in no way changing the subject to discuss a far more pressing issue which is the huge surge in fuel which is going to impact UAL far more than DAL.
You can argue w/ me but neutral industry analysts get it which is why UAL's stock has taken a bigger hit over the past week than DAL's - but, just like the weather issues, no one is spotless or unaffected.
All you prove is that you are a petulant child that fixates on details with a complete inability to see ANY big picture in your relentless need to show UA the best - which it clearly is not.
the rest of the world gets it even and esp. because you don't.
Another perfect, albeit verbose. Self description. LTD, the Prince of Projectionl
in contrast to rebel, the Prince of Data Manipulation!
Oil has blasted through $110/bbl, just about doubling in less than a week.
I can assure you that execs in airline offices are not going to fixate trying to find fault in someone else's operation over the weekend, esp. since not one of them had a flawless performance.
but since there is no shortage of argumentative simpletons that infest this site, it is a given that they will keep arguing until their "favorite" company...
Oil has blasted through $110/bbl, just about doubling in less than a week.
I can assure you that execs in airline offices are not going to fixate trying to find fault in someone else's operation over the weekend, esp. since not one of them had a flawless performance.
but since there is no shortage of argumentative simpletons that infest this site, it is a given that they will keep arguing until their "favorite" company execs announce drastic cuts - which ARE certain to come.
Five years is as long as the airline industry gets between black swan events. This day was bound to happen; some airlines understand that and prepare for the downturn while others think that what the US economy experienced for the past couple years would last forever.
There will be lots of the proud that will fall hard.
"There will be lots of the proud that will fall hard."
hmmmm
Exactly. As if Delta is somehow immune...
Someone should read Proverbs 16:18.
Proverbs 16:18 is indeed good wisdom but we're talking here about the airline industry.
Specific to the current crisis, the rapid increase in fuel prices will cost US airlines billions just when they thought things were looking good for 2026.
and specific to this supposed meltdown, there never really was one. There was an unexpected and strong weather event in ATL that resulted in an impact to DL's operations that was far stronger than what...
Proverbs 16:18 is indeed good wisdom but we're talking here about the airline industry.
Specific to the current crisis, the rapid increase in fuel prices will cost US airlines billions just when they thought things were looking good for 2026.
and specific to this supposed meltdown, there never really was one. There was an unexpected and strong weather event in ATL that resulted in an impact to DL's operations that was far stronger than what the same storm system did elsewhere in its path where it was expected.
And yet, DL's operations were not materially different than any other big 4 airline that saw significant impacts from the same storm system that impacted more than a half dozen hubs.
No exec is worried about or arguing about a couple of point difference in on-time that is manufactured only by ignoring certain operations or picking certain days.
The entire business world is worrying about what the huge increase will do to their profits and demand.
Nobody is immune but DL's refinery strategy provides it with the best protection of any US airline in this type of situation. west coast airlines are most impacted because of refinery and pipeline closures that already were pushing west coast fuel prices higher and that is accelerating even more so now.
some people would do well to quit arguing about details that just don't matter and focus on the big picture.
mind-boggling that they still haven't been able to recover better
mind-boggling that people use aviation chat forums as a means to throw poop and do so in the absence of facts.
DL's operation including its regional carriers - which is the way the DOT defines carriers - ran the most reliably of the big 4 this weekend.
and the real shame is that there are people that will throw poop at someone else while "their" preferred airline hits major turbulence - and that is exactly...
mind-boggling that people use aviation chat forums as a means to throw poop and do so in the absence of facts.
DL's operation including its regional carriers - which is the way the DOT defines carriers - ran the most reliably of the big 4 this weekend.
and the real shame is that there are people that will throw poop at someone else while "their" preferred airline hits major turbulence - and that is exactly what is happening now.
DL is by far the best prepared airline for a black swan while just about every other airline has one or more risks of just surviving outside of bankruptcy if oil prices remain elevated for an extended period of time.
UA has risk upon risk facing it even if they are financially better off than some carriers.
This is hardly the time to be throwing dirt at other people but some people aren't capable of realizing the shi89 they are in
"DL's operation including its regional carriers - which is the way the DOT defines carriers - ran the most reliably of the big 4 this weekend."
Really? Please offer a link to where you found that data.
same place you found yours. I just don't cherrypick out what I don't like.
For the record, UA is in deep doo doo. Kirby isn't one for conveying fear but that is exactly what he did because he knows that UA's go-go growth plan is doomed.
TD, "same place you found yours."
Then I'm not sure that you "can read the data."
Yep it's looking ugly. UA did well with the last one and is in infinitely better financial shape this time.
infinitely better financial shape? than what?
stop sniffing. for the good of us all
with the tarmac rule among other exposures, obviously. maybe Ed can grovel and/or bribe enough to get out of it.
or maybe he can't... we will seeeee
Still going. Delta has already cancelled 4% of their flights today. UA: 1%, AA: 0%, SW: 0%.
The three days averages for cancellations are: DL: 6%, UA: 3%, AA: 1.3%, SW: 0.7%.
and you are still doing everything you can to find flaws w/ DL by cherrypicikng any data point you can find instead of accepting that DL over the course of months and years outperforms its US competitors on consolidated operational metrics.
You are a petulant child that can't accept that DL does alot of things well, in fact, better than its peers including your dearly betrothed United which faces enormous strategic risks - which is...
and you are still doing everything you can to find flaws w/ DL by cherrypicikng any data point you can find instead of accepting that DL over the course of months and years outperforms its US competitors on consolidated operational metrics.
You are a petulant child that can't accept that DL does alot of things well, in fact, better than its peers including your dearly betrothed United which faces enormous strategic risks - which is why your desk buddy Scott Kirby was first to "come out" and tell Wall Street that things might be going sideways for UA soon.
I have said for years that this moment could come and have said it repeatedly over the past week.
You simply cannot accept that larger scale reality so nitpick over details which don't hold up over any meaningful period of time.
You are so hellbent on defending United that you do not and cannot ever see life as it really exists.
btw, do you realize that much of Florida has ATC flow restrictions right now - not severe but DL at ATL is the largest hub to Florida. In contrast, UA is insignificant in Florida.
and what is with 10% of flights inbound to IAH are cancelled already today? You mean UA couldn't reset overnight?
Hypocrite.
Just reporting the data. Cancellations today: DL: 4%, UA: 1%, AA: 0%, SW: 0%
Check it out.
https://www.flightaware.com/live/cancelled/today
I can read the data.
I can also read that 10% of IAH inbound flights are cancelled today but you never bother to report anything that is objective or could possibly be an apples to apples comparison, even though UA's IAH hub is the smallest and least significant hub in the southern tier of the US east of the Rockies.
10% flights cancelled on the DAY AFTER the weather is inexcusable.
The real...
I can read the data.
I can also read that 10% of IAH inbound flights are cancelled today but you never bother to report anything that is objective or could possibly be an apples to apples comparison, even though UA's IAH hub is the smallest and least significant hub in the southern tier of the US east of the Rockies.
10% flights cancelled on the DAY AFTER the weather is inexcusable.
The real issue is that you have spent the past 5 years telling us how great UA is and how it would steamroll the competition.
And yet UA's CEO, the guy whose desk you crouch under, was THE FIRST US airline CEO to tell us that UA would be impacted by the mess going on in the Middle East.
I have been saying that UA's aggressive and combative growth plan was unsustainable and even UA fan writers like Matthew Klint recognize that the airline industry is always a nanosecond away from a black swan event.
UA's aggressive growth, massive capex, combative market share strategies, and underpaid employees could all send UA into a deep tailspin this year - and you are too emotionally invested in UA to recognize that UA's best times could be behind it.
This could very well prove to be a very good year for Ben and other aviation site operators as the arrogant and thin-skinned UA fan club could face the humiliation that many of us knew would come.
This isn't about ATL or DL; UA's operation this weekend hasn't been any better.
This is about you staring down the collapse of your hopes and dreams and my willingness to rub your face in it.
"The real issue is that you have spent the past 5 years telling us..."
I didn't know this site existed until about a year ago. More obvious projection.
again, you live a cherrypicked reality.
Life out from under a desk will do wonders for your perspective.
Get off of your knees under the desk and into the real world.
"again, you live a cherrypicked reality."
You continue to describe yourself so well. I recommend the book, The Road Less Traveled, for your situation.
I recommend that you read ALL of the data and not just the ones you want to post.
UA's 3day cancellation rate above IS NOT 3% to the DOT or to any person that accurately handles data.
UA regional jet flights DO COUNT against UA's cancellation rate.
it is no surprise that DL has a higher mainline cancellation rate at ATL given that their hub is 90% mainline while UA's domestic system is...
I recommend that you read ALL of the data and not just the ones you want to post.
UA's 3day cancellation rate above IS NOT 3% to the DOT or to any person that accurately handles data.
UA regional jet flights DO COUNT against UA's cancellation rate.
it is no surprise that DL has a higher mainline cancellation rate at ATL given that their hub is 90% mainline while UA's domestic system is 40% operated by RJs.
yes, you live in your own reality.
and Ben should banish you to internet hades if you haven't bothered to read enough of his work to know he has done this for the better part of two decades.
Tim Dunn says, "and Ben should banish you to internet hades if you haven't bothered to read enough of his work to know he has done this for the better part of two decades."
I'll give you another try.
You said, "The real issue is that you have spent the past 5 years telling us how great UA is and how it would steamroll the competition."
I said, "I didn't know this site existed until...
Tim Dunn says, "and Ben should banish you to internet hades if you haven't bothered to read enough of his work to know he has done this for the better part of two decades."
I'll give you another try.
You said, "The real issue is that you have spent the past 5 years telling us how great UA is and how it would steamroll the competition."
I said, "I didn't know this site existed until about a year ago."
With reading comprehension that poor no wonder you are so confused. And banishment? That's your thing. Poor LTD.
99.9% of OMAAT readership knows Lil Timmy D is the One True Petulant Child. Wanker.
I don't think "degenerate" should appear in any comment section! Unbelievable... Is it so difficult to keep it civil?!
civil is factually discussing issues. A number of people would have nothing to say if they solely used accurately used facts in their proper context.
The word is accurate for some people.
We'll wait for your outrage for trolls like rebel who can't stand that someone says a negative word about their dearly beloved.f
"I don't think "degenerate" should appear in any comment section! Unbelievable... Is it so difficult to keep it civil?!"
It's obviously an indication of the author's frustration with the facts and projecting his feelings of inadequacy upon others. To think this person pretends to be an airline "analyst" is the definition of chutzpah. Yikes!
Tim Dunn, continues to wipe the floor with the numpty naysayers who attempt to argue against his superior knowledge of the U.S. aviation industry. Keep up the good work Tim, attracting the keyboard warriors add clicks and clicks equals flight reviews …. magic outcome.
Obviously, you can't control the weather, but you *can* control how you respond to it. There was a time that Delta could navigate disruptions like this and not bat an eye. This is not your parent's Delta.
let us know how many days that major US airline hubs have experienced hail over the past year.
it has happened at DFW/Dallas Love field and it has also happened at ATL.
and for all the fixation over this one event in ATL, it was part of the same weather event that moved from the mountain states to the SE. Over Friday and Saturday, DL's operational reliability stats was actually better than AA and WN...
let us know how many days that major US airline hubs have experienced hail over the past year.
it has happened at DFW/Dallas Love field and it has also happened at ATL.
and for all the fixation over this one event in ATL, it was part of the same weather event that moved from the mountain states to the SE. Over Friday and Saturday, DL's operational reliability stats was actually better than AA and WN where N. Texas saw the impact yesterday morning and UA which saw the greatest impact at its ORD hub Friday and its IAH hub last night; AA and WN also saw Chicago impact yesterday.
UA's mainline system on-time yesterday was worse than DL's even though IAH was only hit later yesterday.
ORD still saw 40% plus delays yesterday even though that was supposedly after the main storm line went through Friday.
If people would focus less on poop throwing and more on looking at apples to apples data, the comments section would be a whole lot more meaningful - but that clearly does not meet some people's agenda
No.
None of that is relevant to this post, nor does any of it take away from the point that weather happens to every carrier; it's how they respond/react/recover from it that matters.
well, what do you know.
DL's mainline on-time for Saturday ended up being the best of the big 4. adding in regional partners didn't change the results.
adding Friday and Saturday operational reliability results together - since this was all the result of one storm system that swept across the country - DL still managed to do the best of the big 4.
Thanks for that, Temu Goebbels.
Dim Tuna with the gall to pontificate on protocols...pot/kettle, anyone??
Totally agree! Guessing this Is this code for "Liddle Tom Deuce"? (TIM "DIM TUNA" DUNN)
TD, "...the same storm system that moved through DEN and ORD yesterday with ATL getting part of it..."
Yesterday is the key word.
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa/atlanta/historic
Today's cancellations: DL: 10%, AA: 3%, UA: 2%, SW: 1%.
https://www.flightaware.com/live/cancelled/
the keyword is cherrypicking which you love to do to avoid admitting that UA's operation over the past two days is worse than DL's.
Because you can't accept that UA doesn't do something as good as its competitors, you pick out the dates and times that make UA look better and eliminate regional carriers in the calculation even though the DOT doesn't allow it.
IAH is still under a ground stop right now.
ORD...
the keyword is cherrypicking which you love to do to avoid admitting that UA's operation over the past two days is worse than DL's.
Because you can't accept that UA doesn't do something as good as its competitors, you pick out the dates and times that make UA look better and eliminate regional carriers in the calculation even though the DOT doesn't allow it.
IAH is still under a ground stop right now.
ORD and EWR are under GDPs.
You're a pathetic little man that can't accept reality
You should be a whole lot more focused on the flaming mess of an operation that UA had going on at LAX last week and the fact that UA's full speed ahead growth strategy is coming apart by the minute.
One of the highest capacity growth rates, higher fuel costs per gallon than any of the other big 4 airlines, UA has to finally pay the price for delaying labor settlements, and a mess of airplanes arriving just when cash flow shrinks is precisely why the guy whose desk you live under was the first to come out and say "don't be surprised when we fail to deliver on our final commitments."
No, sh89, Sherlock. Some of us said for years that this day was coming - which explains precisely why you anally focus on a thunderstorm in ATL - because facing the reality of what UA is up against is far too hard for you to accept.
Sorry, UA has been ahead of DL in D:00, OT:14 and completions/cancellations since the holidays last year. Hopefully, the 25 year GE guy is more like Anderson than Immelt.
Says the king of cherrypicking....
strange - no, actually quite predictable how many people commenting here have nothing to say about the flaming heap of an operation that UA had at LAX this past week and which Ben covered.
Some people better be a bit more focused on how UA's pilots can't seem to follow basic directions and its mechanics can't keep those GE engines from catching fire.
That’s because this piece is not about United and LAX.
It’s about Atlanta and Delta, you sock.
no, it is about a weather system that passed across the US. and people who are hellbent in refusing to accept that the same storm system did more damage in UA's hubs yesterday and to AA and WN today - and none of those hubs had hail as DL had in ATL.
and, as long as you and your ilk want to cherrypick data, I will bring up UA's other operational failings this week.
The...
no, it is about a weather system that passed across the US. and people who are hellbent in refusing to accept that the same storm system did more damage in UA's hubs yesterday and to AA and WN today - and none of those hubs had hail as DL had in ATL.
and, as long as you and your ilk want to cherrypick data, I will bring up UA's other operational failings this week.
The takeaway, if you are smart enough to figure out, is to quit throwing poop and accept that UA really doesn't run a better operation than DL and in many cases, much worse.
Let us know when DL had a plane cause a rejected takeoff for one of their own aircraft while another one was evacuating at the same airport.
Of course, you don't want to talk about it.
Delta & Endeavor are up to 10% & 7% or 324 & 46 flights respectively cancelled today, the day after the weather. Recovery continues to be the problem for Delta.
AA: 3%, UA: 2%, SW: 1%.
https://www.flightaware.com/live/cancelled/
you desperately want to throw poop, don't you, you degenerate?
the weather is STILL moving through the country? Are you a complete moron in real life or do you just play one on TV?
Just because you can't see the outside from your vantage point under Kirby's desk doesn't mean there isn't still alot of weather going on in the US.
AA and WN's on-time is worse than DL's right now.
The FAA has...
you desperately want to throw poop, don't you, you degenerate?
the weather is STILL moving through the country? Are you a complete moron in real life or do you just play one on TV?
Just because you can't see the outside from your vantage point under Kirby's desk doesn't mean there isn't still alot of weather going on in the US.
AA and WN's on-time is worse than DL's right now.
The FAA has ground delay programs at 3 UA hubs right now including a ground stop at IAH.
If you think that there isn't a good chance that UA AND IT'S regional partners will have a worse on-time than DL, you really need to go out and smell the rain-cleaned air.
far more flights were cancelled at ORD last night - and the only reason why UA's cancellation rate wasn't higher was becuase UA contracts out so much of its domestic network to regional carriers.
And yet the DOT doesn't care who OPERATES the flight but who MARKETS it.
That is why UA's on-time is consistently worse than DL's.
You go from dumb to dumber every time you post.
TD says, "And yet the DOT doesn't care who OPERATES the flight but who MARKETS it."
No, they don't, but if you look at the individual regionals' cancellations it is clear that Delta is the airline having a very tough time recovering. Delta & Endeavor are up to 10% & 7% or 324 & 46 flights respectively cancelled today, the day after the weather. AA: 3%, UA: 2%, SW: 1%.
https://www.flightaware.com/live/fleet/SKW/cancelled/
Yes, we all know that your desperately cherrypick whatever timeframe you need to throw poop at someone else and tout UA's success.
Nobody except you is incapable of seeing that the same storm system that moved through DEN and ORD yesterday with ATL getting part of it yesterday and ATL and DFW today has to be viewed as one event - except you because your head is so far under Kirby's desk that you are...
Yes, we all know that your desperately cherrypick whatever timeframe you need to throw poop at someone else and tout UA's success.
Nobody except you is incapable of seeing that the same storm system that moved through DEN and ORD yesterday with ATL getting part of it yesterday and ATL and DFW today has to be viewed as one event - except you because your head is so far under Kirby's desk that you are incapable of thinking.
UA and its regional partners' on-time and cancellation rates were worse yesterday and today than AA or DL's cumultative rates for both today.
and IAH is STILL in a ground stop right now while ORD and EWR have ATC delay programs.
As I predicted earlier, UA's on-time w/ its partners is now worse than DL's today.
You truly are a pathetic person.
The weather was over by 8 pm yesterday.
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa/atlanta/historic
I never thought the day would come that UA would be more operationally reliable than DL, but here we are.
except they aren't.
see elsewhere in the replies to this article
OMG…so easy to get you going.
Tim, you lost me when you tried to conflate storms in your hub with having your hub bombed. Sorry, but, um, no.
Yup. Arrived and sat on tarmac for 4.4 hours in a CRJ. And I’m not short. This airplane is our home now. We must choose a leader.
Was stuck on the plane after landing for just under 5 hours (DL471 from LAX). Passengers were furious. Pilots said they couldn’t get ahold of anyone at the airport. Even the dispatchers couldn’t reach anyone. Total chaos
It's a violation of DOT regulations.
And as Tim likes to put it.
That is a FACT.
you do realize that the FAA control tower and the DL ramp tower were evacuated for periods of time?
by the way, not one person has told us how many planes held out for gates and how many diverted.
Wanna give us those FACTS while you pine on about what DL didn't do right?
Don't forget ALSO to include a separate count of all other airline flights that held out for gates at ATL.
you won't.
Yes, but that before the train wreck of massive tarmac delays. Delta started sending in planes from elsewhere with nowhere to go and mo one to work the flights. I am not gonna buy that there were all these lightning delays when the other carriers were actually operating.
Delta has really declined under Bastian no matter what you want to blather. And the fanboys who attack passengers on Social Media are not helping people think better of them.
Also check out the FAA data who ruled Delta came last in OTP in 2025 out of the "Big Five Carriers". Lowest in Employee Engagement out of the big three. Lowest CSAT score of any airline in North America. Most commenters defending them online with pitiful undescended liddle nuts.
How could this happen to Tim Dunn Airlines (oh, sorry, Air Lines) (Wait, no, I mean Air Head) I thought only United & American would...
Also check out the FAA data who ruled Delta came last in OTP in 2025 out of the "Big Five Carriers". Lowest in Employee Engagement out of the big three. Lowest CSAT score of any airline in North America. Most commenters defending them online with pitiful undescended liddle nuts.
How could this happen to Tim Dunn Airlines (oh, sorry, Air Lines) (Wait, no, I mean Air Head) I thought only United & American would have such things happen, and certainly not "the world's best airline" (quote from Tim Dunn).
feel free to post that data, Kathy.
You can't because it doesn't exist and the FAA doesn't "rule" on OTP.
The DOT releases domestic airline performance metrics.
You should step back from the keyboard long enough to figure out the basic facts of how the airline industry and government operates because you clearly don't get it.
Another debacle for Delta. The 'CrowdStrike' meltdown, now this.
UNITED rising.
see Ben's most recent article
An arriving UA plane at LAX crossed in front of a departing UA plane, forcing a high speed rejected takeoff.
On the other side of the airport another UA 787 was being evacuated because of an engine fire.
Sometimes you are better off keeping your mouth shut but you have never demonstrated a modicum of intelligence or common sense, Greg
You take the bait so easily. Pathetic.
I assume a lot of crews timed out sitting on the tarmac at diversion airports. Does the FAA allow exceptions in these cases or does DL have to send relief crews? I can’t even imagine how complicated that would be…
I was on a plane for 6 hours on the tarmac heading out of atl last night and our crew timed out. We were told we were getting another crew, only to be told another hour and a half later that the other crew was also timed out and they simply didn’t have staff. We eventually deplaned and the flight was canceled around midnight. Once off the planes there wasn’t many delta staff to help...
I was on a plane for 6 hours on the tarmac heading out of atl last night and our crew timed out. We were told we were getting another crew, only to be told another hour and a half later that the other crew was also timed out and they simply didn’t have staff. We eventually deplaned and the flight was canceled around midnight. Once off the planes there wasn’t many delta staff to help in the airport so people waited in lines for 4-5 hours. They ran out of water and snacks on the plane. We were told there was not staff at the gate to open the doors to allow anyone off of the plane. We are still waiting on stand by to get out of atl. We won’t likely be out until tomorrow morning.
Most airports, particularly large hub airports operate at full capacity. Which means when things go south this happens. And it's all major airlines. There are only so many gates, people and air controllers. Add to that crew are often waiting for a plane in the airport or stuck out on a plane that doesn't have an open gate.
I'm trying to get out of TUL today back through DFW to MIA and things look rough....
Most airports, particularly large hub airports operate at full capacity. Which means when things go south this happens. And it's all major airlines. There are only so many gates, people and air controllers. Add to that crew are often waiting for a plane in the airport or stuck out on a plane that doesn't have an open gate.
I'm trying to get out of TUL today back through DFW to MIA and things look rough. The previous flight to DFW which was 100% full is just sitting on the tarmac waiting for clearance to leave. My flight hasn't even left DFW yet.
Shocked that Tim Dunn would allow this to happen. As we are all well aware, the global order is as follows: 1) Tim Dunn
2) Delta Air Lines
3) God
4) Jesus H. Christ
5) The Airport Authority
6) God of Weather
As anyone can tell very clearly, Tim, Delta or even The Airport Authority could have prevented this from happening!
we're waiting for you to take your own advice and turn your "job" over to AI.
actually, ANY INTELLIGENCE would be a step up from the drivel you write. don't worry, though, Rod is in your same camp.
rebel actually has some intelligence but he has his head so far under Scotty's desk that he can't see the light of day or anything else for that matter.
Sorry to disappoint you Tim.
But Fake Eskimo is doing a terrible job impersonating lately.
I agree, this moron is worst that what generative AI can come up with.
He should just register his username and email.
It isn't hard to figure out.
No one has or should have any pity on anyone that can't follow the basic protocols of this site.
This is totally crazy. I am really shocked. Delta stock has dropped 20% on this news yesterday! Total executive shake-up as well? Heard on great authority The "Senior Director - Atlanta Hub Operations" is also OUT effective Immediately! Perhpas liddle deucy duncester timmy timmy tom deuce will take the role? Then the sbare peice will sorp 40%! Scary! Anyways and all of that aside this crisis could have been avoided with proper weather monitoring and...
This is totally crazy. I am really shocked. Delta stock has dropped 20% on this news yesterday! Total executive shake-up as well? Heard on great authority The "Senior Director - Atlanta Hub Operations" is also OUT effective Immediately! Perhpas liddle deucy duncester timmy timmy tom deuce will take the role? Then the sbare peice will sorp 40%! Scary! Anyways and all of that aside this crisis could have been avoided with proper weather monitoring and contingency activation! So true! Disappointing news that Would never happy anywhere else GLOBALLY! Only in the USA. Awful. Not even in Chicago or Charlotte (united American airlines hubs and I fact HQs as well which is an been greater indictment against Delta to have such an horrible terrible thing at the HQ city- Delta City. Fuel prices up 150% due to "Eron" as well
These sort of events will continue to happen to all airlines in the US. Yes, perhaps more at certain airlines than others, but the issue is that airlines do not want to pay for excess capacity that they could draw on during these fairly uncommon events. That does not solely apply to aircraft and air crew, but to gate agents, buses, air stairs, or help line personnel. I doubt the fines that Delta or others...
These sort of events will continue to happen to all airlines in the US. Yes, perhaps more at certain airlines than others, but the issue is that airlines do not want to pay for excess capacity that they could draw on during these fairly uncommon events. That does not solely apply to aircraft and air crew, but to gate agents, buses, air stairs, or help line personnel. I doubt the fines that Delta or others may receive for these events will change the math for them. Fines for poor contingency planning have to cover everyday events to begin to add up and shift thinking.
While in general airlines are penny pinching operations at passengers’ expense, I’d give DL some grace here.
To have been able to handle this (if it’s even possible…) would have taken HUNDREDS of surplus airplanes along with the crews, parking areas, busses, air stairs, etc etc.
This would be wildly, impractically inefficient and DL would be (rightly) criticized on this site and others for maintaining a “ghost fleet” that all fly less than...
While in general airlines are penny pinching operations at passengers’ expense, I’d give DL some grace here.
To have been able to handle this (if it’s even possible…) would have taken HUNDREDS of surplus airplanes along with the crews, parking areas, busses, air stairs, etc etc.
This would be wildly, impractically inefficient and DL would be (rightly) criticized on this site and others for maintaining a “ghost fleet” that all fly less than 10 flights a year. And, of course, we’d all be paying for it via higher ticket prices.
What happened is the inevitable result of a perfectly timed weather event at a hub where a huge percentage of the total fleet originates and departs from. 99% of the time it’s gloriously efficient for the airline and its passengers. The trade off is every now and then there’s an enormous catastrophic failure.
I didn't intend to single out Delta (because I think another major is worse), and I agree with you when it comes to the expense of redundant aircraft and highly compensated pilots, but there needs to be an on-call system for rolls like aircraft marshallers, bus drivers, apron personnel and helpline people, especially to handle needs after 11PM when staffing normally falls off. It would mean some workers would very occasionally be asked (and well...
I didn't intend to single out Delta (because I think another major is worse), and I agree with you when it comes to the expense of redundant aircraft and highly compensated pilots, but there needs to be an on-call system for rolls like aircraft marshallers, bus drivers, apron personnel and helpline people, especially to handle needs after 11PM when staffing normally falls off. It would mean some workers would very occasionally be asked (and well compensated) for a 12-16 hour day for one or two days to facillitate quicker recovery from irreg ops. And air stairs just aren't that expensive.
Many businesses have such contingency systems, for example hospitals. Often it's the availability of room cleaners that are the rate limiting step in getting patients admitted rather than doctors and nurses. In the case of airlines if you can't deplane passengers, you can't release that flight crew to start their rest period or service the plane for the next flight.
These weather events happen to most airlines every year. My goodness, we can't keep people on planes within sight of the terminal for hours on end, or have passengers unable to get through to a 1-800 line for rebooking or for FAs trying to get their new flight assignment for half a day. But somehow we've come to see this as frustrating but "expected".
You told ‘em Tim!
Such a lot of melodramatic Walter Mitty type Bots you have to deal with. Ben, must seek out the DL items especially for you and the BA referenced articles for me. Personally I don’t mind, as responding to the numpty Bots keeps my brain cell occupied.
As Ben, benefits from the clicks generated from such articles, the likes of me benefit when he posts an interesting flight review, etc. Some of...
You told ‘em Tim!
Such a lot of melodramatic Walter Mitty type Bots you have to deal with. Ben, must seek out the DL items especially for you and the BA referenced articles for me. Personally I don’t mind, as responding to the numpty Bots keeps my brain cell occupied.
As Ben, benefits from the clicks generated from such articles, the likes of me benefit when he posts an interesting flight review, etc. Some of his hotel reviews are entertaining when the proletariat rise to my baited hook lines of text.
The one very interesting fact which I have learned from reading and participating in the article comments, is that very few who pound their keyboards and post herein, actually have any real knowledge of aviation beyond their own environs. Most are poor demented souls who have nothing better to do with their time.
TD says, "there were thunderstorms w/ tornadoes in multiple parts of the midwest and south yesterday"
What's the problem today? Cancellations: DL: 8%, UA: 1%, SW: 1%, AA: 0%
again, cherrypicking.
24% of ORD flights were cancelled yesterday. 75% of flights delayed at DEN yesterday
The only reason that UA's cancellation rates aren't higher - and UA still had the highest mainline cancellation rate among US airlines yesterday - is because UA contracts out so much of its domestic flying to regional carriers.
Most of the SKYW flights that were cancelled yesterday were to be operated for UA.
You can slice and...
again, cherrypicking.
24% of ORD flights were cancelled yesterday. 75% of flights delayed at DEN yesterday
The only reason that UA's cancellation rates aren't higher - and UA still had the highest mainline cancellation rate among US airlines yesterday - is because UA contracts out so much of its domestic flying to regional carriers.
Most of the SKYW flights that were cancelled yesterday were to be operated for UA.
You can slice and dice statistics to try to not make UA look so bad and make DL look bad but the DOT doesn't buy your arguments.
The scope of IROPS at UA yesterday will almost certainly be worse than DL bewteen yesterday evening and all of today.
As a petulant child that only knows how to throw poo, you are incapable of waiting for all of the data to come in to make an apples to apples comparison.
Actually, DL's wholly owned regional, Endeavor, also cancelled 8% of their flights today. Why?
Yes Tim, both ORD and DEN had weather impact yesterday, yet UA is almost totally recovered while DL is struggling.
DL is also in violation of LTD regulations on many flights, while UA isn’t, even though UA had its two largest hubs impacted.
That’s the point we’re making. It’s not about weather impacting hubs, it’s about the airline ability to recover. This is where DL consistently struggles.
This is an industry problem. The airlines are stuck in the 60's with the hub and spoke business plan. These major airports are just a house of cards always. JFK, ATL, DEN, LAX to name a few. The customers and federal government put up with it, so their for it will continue. The airlines can always blame the weather. With no contingency plan. There is no need to compensate customers for anything. There was an...
This is an industry problem. The airlines are stuck in the 60's with the hub and spoke business plan. These major airports are just a house of cards always. JFK, ATL, DEN, LAX to name a few. The customers and federal government put up with it, so their for it will continue. The airlines can always blame the weather. With no contingency plan. There is no need to compensate customers for anything. There was an unexpected thunderstorm in Atlanta. Who would ever plan for a thunderstorm in Georgia. It's like a restaurant leaving raw chicken out, hoping for no Salmonella.
Delta's operations are just going to continue to decline, as the industry continues to grow.
The big three ( American, Delta, United ) are stuck in the 60's, eventually someone is going to come up with a new format. It will then become the Amazon of the airline industry. Who knows, maybe it will be Amazon.
Sure. Amazon could make Amazon Air and try to be Breeze, Allegiant, etc. and just focus on Point to Point operation. But even they have hubs because it's impossible not to.
Economies of scale being what they are, you save a ton of money on consolidation of operations.
Did you forget about Southwest’s multi -day meltdown a few years ago? Seems to me like abandoning hub and spoke isn’t the silver bullet you think it is.
As for thunderstorms in ATL, c’mon, you don’t think DL has thought of that? I promise they have invested many millions in contingency planning to minimize ATL disruptions, refined over decades of experience. I’m sure they could double their investment…and then those poor ppl would only...
Did you forget about Southwest’s multi -day meltdown a few years ago? Seems to me like abandoning hub and spoke isn’t the silver bullet you think it is.
As for thunderstorms in ATL, c’mon, you don’t think DL has thought of that? I promise they have invested many millions in contingency planning to minimize ATL disruptions, refined over decades of experience. I’m sure they could double their investment…and then those poor ppl would only be stuck on the plane for 8 hrs instead of 10. Some events are just impossible to plan for.
At least DL has good IFE to distract customers when they melt down.
Beginning to wonder if Delta is actually better or they just have more keyboard warriors on staff? They’ve sure been deployed here!
Just another monthly event that has people questioning the operational reliability of yet another airline. Every few months there's a new airline that is now considered unreliable and it should be boycotted. Soon, none will be considered reliable. Right up there with Southwest.
What is a reasonable happy medium for both pax and airlines that can be arranged in such situations? I find it ridiculous that in this day and age, we still cannot arrive at a better solution than to have pax trapped on airplanes for hours. What is it going to take? Someone to die before we solve this?
please tell us you aren't hung over?
How many people have died or even been taken off of a plane by EMTs because of sitting waiting for a gate?
and you act as if you can drive across any city in America and never have to face a delay - and yet there are frequently accidents and extended delays in every form of transportation = and people don't die in them.
Take a few aspirin,...
please tell us you aren't hung over?
How many people have died or even been taken off of a plane by EMTs because of sitting waiting for a gate?
and you act as if you can drive across any city in America and never have to face a delay - and yet there are frequently accidents and extended delays in every form of transportation = and people don't die in them.
Take a few aspirin, stay off the internet for a few hours, and come back when OR PERHAPS IF you have some common sense.
I suspect you are being a willful idiot, but here you go:
JetBlue Flight Stranded 7 Hours – Bradley Airport, CT (2011)
After passengers were stuck on a JetBlue flight for over four hours with no assistance, a paraplegic man began complaining of intense pain. According to passengers near him, he had not been moved for leg circulation or taken to the bathroom since before boarding. State police, Emergency Medical Services, and an ambulance...
I suspect you are being a willful idiot, but here you go:
JetBlue Flight Stranded 7 Hours – Bradley Airport, CT (2011)
After passengers were stuck on a JetBlue flight for over four hours with no assistance, a paraplegic man began complaining of intense pain. According to passengers near him, he had not been moved for leg circulation or taken to the bathroom since before boarding. State police, Emergency Medical Services, and an ambulance were called in for him. ABC News The pilot, in a now-infamous cockpit recording, was heard pleading for help, saying he couldn't get assistance from his own company.
Delta Flight 555 – Las Vegas, 111°F Heat (2023)
A Delta Air Lines flight out of Las Vegas was canceled after several passengers and at least one crew member fell ill amid "uncomfortable temperatures" on the plane as they waited for it to take off during an unrelenting heat wave. Multiple customers were seen by first responders, including a passenger and a flight attendant who had to be transported to a local hospital. NBC News Passengers reported being on a hot plane in 111-degree weather for nearly three hours, and people were reportedly passing out.
Emirates Flight EK412 – Sydney Tarmac (2025)
Australian Federal Police and NSW Ambulance were called to a plane on the tarmac, where a 66-year-old man was treated by paramedics. Despite the efforts of first responders, the man died at the scene. Yahoo! The death resulted in passengers being stranded on the plane, unable to disembark, for additional time after landing.
United Airlines Flight 179 – Goose Bay, Canada (2019)
Passengers aboard a United Airlines flight from Newark to Hong Kong were grounded for more than 18 hours at a frigid Canadian airport after their plane was diverted due to a medical emergency. Medical personnel met the aircraft at the gate and the distressed passenger was taken to a hospital. HuffPost A broken door then trapped everyone else on board for another 16+ hours. Passengers tweeted: "Please help us. People are not doing well. Running low on food."
I asked Claude to search
They may pay huge fines to the DOT, but pax that spend 11 hours on a 737 will get... 5,000 skymiles?
Benn, the readership has been asking for years when you will introduce functionality to allow the community to block certain commenters who clutter up the site with nonsense and, frankly, insanity. I’m not referring to myself this time. :)
But you really need to do something about this. A 500-word screed about everything except Delta on a piece about Delta is nuts.
He will never do that because people like yourself and many others engage and give him the attention he wants. Hell, even Ben rage baits him in order to drum up engagement. For those of us who just enjoy reading the articles and coming to the comment section for more info it’s really hard because it’s always this unnecessary back and forth smh
you mean you don't want to hear the facts, exactly what I have done in aviation social media for years.
It is no more relevant that thunderstorms moved through ATL last night and this morning than that they moved through ORD yesterday and are sitting over N. Texas right now.
how quantifiable is this "people are furious" comment which was EXACTLY said over on a.net? How many POd passengers were there at ORD and DEN...
you mean you don't want to hear the facts, exactly what I have done in aviation social media for years.
It is no more relevant that thunderstorms moved through ATL last night and this morning than that they moved through ORD yesterday and are sitting over N. Texas right now.
how quantifiable is this "people are furious" comment which was EXACTLY said over on a.net? How many POd passengers were there at ORD and DEN compared to ATL over the past 12 hours?
I've done this for a quarter century and I am not going away no matter how many people like you can't stand for actual facts and apples to apples comparisons have to be made.
You should be banned first with all the nonsense you post
just debate the facts I presented or you are the Karen that incessantly yells but can't actually think.
Not one person that has argued for me to not be able to participate has actually discussed the claims I made including that 24% of ORD flights were cancelled yesterday and 75% of DEN flights were delayed but we are supposed to believe that wasn't a meltdown but far fewer flights at ATL had or will...
just debate the facts I presented or you are the Karen that incessantly yells but can't actually think.
Not one person that has argued for me to not be able to participate has actually discussed the claims I made including that 24% of ORD flights were cancelled yesterday and 75% of DEN flights were delayed but we are supposed to believe that wasn't a meltdown but far fewer flights at ATL had or will be impacted by bad weather today.
And, no, it isn't because planes diverted or people sat waiting for gates. I can assure you this event will not come close to other events in the number of gate delays or diversions.
Tim was banned and is still lifetime banned in certain places.
And that is a FACT.
Delta is definitely #1….in operational meltdowns and poor recovery
again, actual facts and data are not on your side.
DL ended up as the #2 US airline in 2025 in ontime and, among the big 4, only bested by WN in cancellation rates - and WN is relatively small in the NE - very small operations in PHL or north.
It was AA that took over a week to recover from winter storms and the FAA has had to step in TWICE to stop UA from from overscheduling its hubs.
The facts are opposite of what you spout.
To absolutely NO ONE'S surprise
Tim, how do you just make up statistics when anyone who reads this blog has already seen Ben’s previous post about DL having more cancellations than UA in 2025, in spite of UA’s spring issues in EWR? Link below so you can refresh your memory.
Also, DL has cancelled many more flights than UA so far in 2026.
And again, this is about DL’s inability to recover from disruptions.
https://onemileatatime.com/news/delta-lost-the-on-time-machine-title/
spare us the cherrypicking.
it's called spring and summer weather. The southeast has been unusually warm but spring is still not even officially here. Something meteorologically had to break.
There were thunderstorms w/ tornadoes in multiple parts of the midwest and south yesterday and the line just cleared Chicago. DAL Dallas Love field and DFW are both in ground stops due to thunderstorms.
24% of flights at ORD were cancelled yesterday. SkyWest cancelled the most...
spare us the cherrypicking.
it's called spring and summer weather. The southeast has been unusually warm but spring is still not even officially here. Something meteorologically had to break.
There were thunderstorms w/ tornadoes in multiple parts of the midwest and south yesterday and the line just cleared Chicago. DAL Dallas Love field and DFW are both in ground stops due to thunderstorms.
24% of flights at ORD were cancelled yesterday. SkyWest cancelled the most flights of US airlines; UA was the highest for mainline cancellations. 74% of DEN flights were delayed.
Does anyone in their right mind think that anyone was sending thank you notes to AA, UA or WN for their handling of yesterday's weather? Of course, not.
It simply was the timing of last night's storms and this morning's storms in ATL.
and let's not forget that the ME3 are still struggling to get their operations running again.
QR is consistently cancelling 80% of its flights while missiles keep landing at DXB.
and let's also not forget that ORD is hugely overscheduled and Chicago is not exempt from thunderstorms.
Awwwww Widdle Timmy D has his own personal self image tied up in his vewy favowite airline, has to immediately wake up and start defending them. SAD!!!
“…wake up and start defending them.”
He’s not even defending Delta. He’s just puking up bullshit about every carrier *except* Delta.
and just as predictable that the nut jobs wake up from their Friday night hangovers and can't stand to see facts.
I have cited FACTS involving ALL airlines. You just can't stand that those facts say that DL runs a better operation than the rest of the US airline industry
Tim, you definitely did not cite facts.
Ben posted an article recently that showed, supported by data, DL canceled more flights than UA in 2025, in spite of UA working through the FAA issues in EWR through the spring.
Surprised you would make up “facts” that contradict actual facts that we all recently read on this same blog.
Actually I’m not surprised.
And of course DL has canceled more flights than...
Tim, you definitely did not cite facts.
Ben posted an article recently that showed, supported by data, DL canceled more flights than UA in 2025, in spite of UA working through the FAA issues in EWR through the spring.
Surprised you would make up “facts” that contradict actual facts that we all recently read on this same blog.
Actually I’m not surprised.
And of course DL has canceled more flights than UA in January, then more again in February, and so far in March. Data provided by MasFlight.
I have it on very good and very strong authority that Tim "Tom" "The Deuce" "DunceMasterOne" Dunce has "totally lost it". This is what his team of Psychological Scientists are saying, having studied him for over 25 years, as far back as his terrible affliction and amongst the worst case of "stupidity" ever seen began, having started as WorldTraveler on Airliners.net then. But they're saying this news has destroyed him totally and that he is...
I have it on very good and very strong authority that Tim "Tom" "The Deuce" "DunceMasterOne" Dunce has "totally lost it". This is what his team of Psychological Scientists are saying, having studied him for over 25 years, as far back as his terrible affliction and amongst the worst case of "stupidity" ever seen began, having started as WorldTraveler on Airliners.net then. But they're saying this news has destroyed him totally and that he is suffering from "the worst case of" "Mania" ever recorded! Interesting!
Agreed on not cherry picking, glad to see someone here has some sanity. Let's compare true apples to apples. United and American, including their regional carriers, have had zero federal tarmac law violations that I can see yesterday. Can you help me try to figure out how many Delta had? I'm trying to figure it out, but I lost count after double digits of federal tarmac law violations yesterday. I'm guessing that you'll help me...
Agreed on not cherry picking, glad to see someone here has some sanity. Let's compare true apples to apples. United and American, including their regional carriers, have had zero federal tarmac law violations that I can see yesterday. Can you help me try to figure out how many Delta had? I'm trying to figure it out, but I lost count after double digits of federal tarmac law violations yesterday. I'm guessing that you'll help me find the number though since you're so interested in truly comparing apples to apples and not just blindly defending Delta for This massive violation of federal law that the other carriers didn't deal with yesterday.
The FAA should implement an immediate capacity cut of 25% at Atlanta and 20% at ORD. High failure rates are being reported at ATC / FAA training and many senior career staff are leaving when they are eligible. Huge loss of talent.
Padded arrival stats for the press and investors do not show the true picture of how close we are to another major incident.
Weather affects the operations of a premium airline like Delta? Who new!?
Ben wakes up early and reads a.net and finds a story to generate controversy based on cherrypicked, unmeasured anecdotes.
As predictable as time.
Everyone, please take a step back and swallow a big ass horse chill pill. Several died in that storm. You want to be them or a friend/family member of the deceased? Nope. Didn't think so.