Once in a while, we’ll see airlines highlight the special ways that flights are crewed, whether it’s an all-female crew, all-black crew, mother-daughter pilot duo, etc. Well, Taiwan-based SkyTeam carrier China Airlines just had a milestone flight, and it was neither a coincidence, nor was it planned by the company.
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China Airlines flight attendants planned their own crew roster
A vast majority of China Airlines flight attendants are female, and historically, the company has limited how many male flight attendants there can be per flight, with most flights having at most one or two flight male flight attendants. As a result, male flight attendants rarely worked together, and rarely got to know one another on trips.
However, the flight attendant union recently managed to get the company to change this policy, so that the decision of who is crewed on a flight is no longer dependent on gender. With this policy change in place, some male flight attendants decided to plan a special flight to commemorate this.
Back in August 2025, several male flight attendants with fairly high seniority decided to bid on the same flight, so that they’d have good odds of being assigned that trip. Trip bidding for flight attendants is complicated, and it considers seniority, among other factors. They all agreed that in the event that a female flight attendant with higher seniority bid on the trip, they’d all drop out, and bid on a different trip.
They decided to bid on a trip from Taipei (TPE) to New York (JFK). There was no significance to the date that they chose. The reason they decided on New York was because the crew hotel is conveniently located, and many of the flight attendants travel there frequently, so they could have a special trip together, and plan some fun activities.
They weren’t necessarily expecting this would be successful with the first try, but sure enough, it was! Derek Lin, one of the flight attendants, shared details of this trip on Instagram, and it looks like they had a great time.
As the flight attendant wrote on Instagram (translated to English);
“This is not only a small milestone, but also a hope that no matter what profession you are in, there will be no more gender frameworks and labels from the previous generation. In the future, these things can be so commonplace. Let’s use our small efforts to continue to move the awareness of equality forward, okay?”
Kudos to this crew, what a nice effort!
Obviously people face different kinds of discrimination in different careers, and I think it’s worth celebrating when those “barriers” are broken. Yes, usually policies negatively impact women rather than men, but this is an exception. In this case, the airline quite literally had a policy against having too many male flight attendants on the same flight, and the union was able to get that changed.
So as a one-time thing, I think this is a really lovely concept. And I think it’s all the cooler when you consider the fact that the company didn’t even have anything to do with the planning, but instead, the flight attendants took it upon themselves to plan this.
Bottom line
Until recently, China Airlines didn’t even allow too many male flight attendants to work on the same flight. The union finally managed to get the company to end that policy, so they decided to celebrate by planning an all-male trip. Their planning really was impressive, as they managed to bid on the same New York trip on the first try.
As a one-time thing, I think this is fantastic. In the future, hopefully gender won’t be a consideration in planning one way or another.
What do you make of this China Airlines all-male crew?
I would like to apologize to everyone on this thread for my rabid homophobic remarks.
I was drunk beyond belief and made an idiot of myself. I have internal sexual thoughts I'm still working through...
This is an IMPOSTER!
And you would know that how, Jessia?
Are you using multiple names?
I was a homophobic a**hole and I apologize.
"Jessica", not "Jessia", buster.
Fake Darryl, why did you let Darryl's comments trigger you? Ever heard "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me"?
This is obviously not "Darryl" from yesterday, and just someone who is very sensitive.
Fake Icarus,
Please don't use my screen name to spread hate.
Make up your own.
Would be interesting to do a testosterone test. I suspect it might actually come out negative (much like many people's IQs).
Would be interesting to measure your dick, @Eskimo. I suspect it might actually come out negative (much like your IQ).
Interesting Fantasy, Ralphie!
Good. In the same that we should celebrate an all-women crew, etc., we should ALSO celebrate an all-male one.
The definition of feminism - which has been all-but forgotten - is EQUALITY between men and women. Ergo, and very logically, if something were worth celebrating for all women, it is equally worthy for all men, and vice-versa.
If as a feminist you push back against ANYTHING masculine, against ANYTHING celebrating men, then you are actually...
Good. In the same that we should celebrate an all-women crew, etc., we should ALSO celebrate an all-male one.
The definition of feminism - which has been all-but forgotten - is EQUALITY between men and women. Ergo, and very logically, if something were worth celebrating for all women, it is equally worthy for all men, and vice-versa.
If as a feminist you push back against ANYTHING masculine, against ANYTHING celebrating men, then you are actually advocating for a very ANTI-feminist stance.
If one pushes back against cats , against anything cats , then you are actually advocating for a very anti-dog stance .
I actually don't see any comments about feminism being an issue here. I am a feminist (aren't most people?) and think this is great. If anything, I see many comments from men weirdly obsessed with the idea that an all-male crew means gay porn. When I saw this picture, I thought "look how happy they look!" When other men on this comment thread saw this picture, they thought "somethings gay about this". If you want to be angry about something, maybe start there?
This is amazing! It should be celebrated. Men finally having their day!
Try "THINKING". You’re acting like society automatically sees men as better, but that’s not what this is about at all. It’s just a flight crew doing their jobs. There’s nothing to “celebrate” or turn into some point about gender. Not everything needs to be twisted into a competition. Fucking buffoon.
In my line of work it is sometimes necessary to have a Chaperone of the other sex present for sensitive discussions or interactions. Congratulations to the group for being able to arrange this, but I might have considered taking one female Flight Attendant just in case a situation arose where a female Flight Attendant would be helpful for legal, medical or cultural reasons.
I absolutely agree with Dan. For example in my country it is a punishable offence for a male physician to physically examine a female patient without a female chaperone present, particularly if curtains need to be drawn during the examination for privacy/modesty. On a long-duration flight, it is entirely possible that a situation might occur which could necessitate physical contact between aircrew and a passenger in order to assist them, whether for a medical reason...
I absolutely agree with Dan. For example in my country it is a punishable offence for a male physician to physically examine a female patient without a female chaperone present, particularly if curtains need to be drawn during the examination for privacy/modesty. On a long-duration flight, it is entirely possible that a situation might occur which could necessitate physical contact between aircrew and a passenger in order to assist them, whether for a medical reason or for a more mundane reason such as assistance in the washroom for a handicapped passenger or child (travelling alone) should the need arise. In such an instance, a flight attendant of the same sex might be ideal, especially if the passenger is uncomfortable having a person of the opposite sex with them in such a situation (which could even be haram for some religions). Having an all single-sex crew is poor planning and even worse if it is intentional.
For a different reason, an all-female crew is also undesirable if large belligerent male passengers need to be handled. Unless the all-female crew include champion pugilists/weight-lifters or the like. Air marshals, if present, are to prevent hijackings, not to restrain unruly passengers. Physical needs require matching physical solutions, whether for delicate situations or rough ones. The airline/institution that does not plan for that has failed.
Blatant homosexuality?
what exactly is homosexual about this?
Look at the picture.
Dainty "Men" making little hard expressions.
Dainty "Men" holding face in plays.
Dainty "Men" holding each other.
Dainty "Men" poking around corner of galley.
Blatant is a very offensive word and inappropriately used with the word homosexuality amounting to discrimination. You better off fly with communist owned and controlled airlines such as Air China, China Eastern...
No, Darlene, Blatant is not a "very offensive" word.
Definition: completely lacking in subtlety; very obvious.
There is nothing offensive about this as a word, Darlene. Your comment is a blight on intellectual integrity, Darlene, I am asking you strongly to redact it.
The only "dainty man" I see is you Darryl. Getting your panties all in a wad over make flight attendants. I suggest you never be on a flight that I'm on ok, dainty man?
Big Dirty Dempsey! Chill out, Boi!!!!
I stand firm with my comments. I suggest you to be more sensitive and appropriate with your words. You're obviously very biased and not expressing positively towards something meant to enrich freedom and diversity.
‘Blatant’? lol.
‘Blatant’? lol.
Agree.
In Related News: As per "Loyalty Lobby" Chinese Tourists were Noticed Pooping at S.Korean Historical sites. The Pictures of "soiled" pants are very visible and so is the picture of a man Pooping against the wall. someone commented this was the crew of a Chinese plane.
These issues usually concern mainlanders. Taiwan (and HK) has a very different culture.
Communist China and Taiwan (the Republic of China) are completely different countries. Taiwan is rightfully the successor state to the Kingdom of China, while Communist China is a culture only like 70 years old. Taiwan basically has modern standards. Again, these are completely different countries and different peoples.
In Related News: As per "Loyalty Lobby" Chinese Tourists were Noticed Pooping at S.Korean Historical sites. The Pictures of "soiled" pants are very visible and so is the picture of a man Pooping against the wall. someone commented this was the crew of a Chinese plane.
Then I am sure the people of New York are glad that China Airlines is from Taiwan (Republic of China), and NOT from Mainland/Communist China (People's Republic of China).
Just because somebody comments something, doesn't make it true. The crew is from Taiwan. It is NOT from China. And how is pooping considered "In Related News" ???
It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.
Okay Mr Wong!
To quote your probable deity, @StrangePerson, "fake news!"
❤️❤️ Freedom and democracy make a huge difference in Taiwan for China Airlines crews. People can freely voice for change and improvements, whereas in communist China, dictatorship decides everything for all state-run Chinese airlines.
That’ll scare the Chinese….
Funny .
What is the purpose of such an excitement by all "male" readers?
There are some of us here who are non-heterosexual, me for one. They're not my type, but there are guys out there called "rice queens" who are really into men like this. So get off your Abrahamic high horse and acknolwedge that we're queer, we're here, and get used to that before we make it mandatory.
This is person is unwell. Can you spell "MENTALLY DISTURBED"? Get off YOUR high horse and acknowledge everyone is entitled to an opinion. Chill, ORD, Chill!
Thank you, Darryl Macklem, for a very accurate and polite understanding.
Therefore, before an overexcited queer reader "ORD" makes my acknowledgement "mandatory", I'd better politely rephrase my comments / questions as follows: "What is the purpose of such an excitement by all queer readers and contributors? Is there something to do with the "à la av-geek" purpose of OMAAT?"
And to both of you, it would not be remiss for me to say that it would not be a tragedy should both of you be rectally violated by a bull elephant in musth.
In a case my understanding is correct, "à la" av-geek queer Mr. Ben is certainly proud to overexcite the OMAAT queer community by some of his articles. Such a pathetic and unprofessional tragicomedy...
The only opinion that matters is mine, breeder b1tch. Especially when those "opinions" reflect an ideology that got me and my tribe gruesomely executed for thousands of years.
I strongly suggest you seek help. Go on Google and look up 'mental health support in Chicago'. Urgently needed.
"The only opinion that matters is mine" NARCISSIST
"it would not be a tragedy should both of you be (redacted) by a bull elephant" SICK THING TO SAY. But interesting if you study the stats on your community's interest in this kind of thing.
I would love to compare IQs with you and your "tribe" (??), Mister Elephant Lover. Better agree to an IQ test before I "make it mandatory" (whatever the hell that is supposed to mean).
My IQ has been measured at 156. I have a degree in a STEM subject from a US News and World Report Top Ten university (all schools). I had two Nobel winners as teachers. How were those rides on the short bus?
And, yes, I'm a narcissist who is convinced that he is superior to mouth-breeders like you. You're not causing me any shame by typing it in all-caps like the retard who inhabits the...
My IQ has been measured at 156. I have a degree in a STEM subject from a US News and World Report Top Ten university (all schools). I had two Nobel winners as teachers. How were those rides on the short bus?
And, yes, I'm a narcissist who is convinced that he is superior to mouth-breeders like you. You're not causing me any shame by typing it in all-caps like the retard who inhabits the White House, who I was proud to vote against three times. Now go back in your basement and guiltily pleasure yourself to photos of Usha Vance.
Wow! Miles of bragging about IQ scores, famous professors, and a college ranking, but somehow not a single word about a JOB or MONEY. It’s almost like listing academic trophies is easier than proving you’ve done anything with them. Surprise, surprise.
If your goal was to sound superior, maybe try accomplishments that exist outside a classroom. Right now it just reads like you peaked at school and earning degrees and never got around to...
Wow! Miles of bragging about IQ scores, famous professors, and a college ranking, but somehow not a single word about a JOB or MONEY. It’s almost like listing academic trophies is easier than proving you’ve done anything with them. Surprise, surprise.
If your goal was to sound superior, maybe try accomplishments that exist outside a classroom. Right now it just reads like you peaked at school and earning degrees and never got around to the part where you actually used them for something.
I seriously suggest you get some psychological help URGENTLY!
I'm in a job that I like that pays for all my travel and I make well over six figures. I would guess that you're a car mechanic, a garbage man, or you turn tricks with frustrated redneck closet cases.
It's funny how your "tribe" are always the ones preaching equality and how it is so terrible to judge or look down on someone, but will always be the first to start calling out Skilled trades and other occupations who you deem "stupid". But when you really think about it, it is very understandable. The very deep-rooted self-hatred of your community is a very unfortunate thing. You'll need your "ricequeen' to humiliate you in the...
It's funny how your "tribe" are always the ones preaching equality and how it is so terrible to judge or look down on someone, but will always be the first to start calling out Skilled trades and other occupations who you deem "stupid". But when you really think about it, it is very understandable. The very deep-rooted self-hatred of your community is a very unfortunate thing. You'll need your "ricequeen' to humiliate you in the bedroom and perform some CBT (and no, I do not mean cognitive behavioral therapy, the other type), and you'll feel much better!
No, it's not my tribe who looks down on people like you. Thar's just me. People like you are here to provide service to people like me. You are not my equal in any regard, and my place is to insult and humiliate you. Now go off and pretend you have a life.
Chill, Tribesman ORD, Chill! Better head to the gay ballbusting club asap to get your tinky winky and shriveled grapes handled! Perhaps then you will relax!
ORD, you should really look at your comments bro. A bit much.
Shut up, David, if that's your real name, and grow a pair instead of being a sensitive snowflake.
You're embarrassing yourself now. Fool.
If I'm a fool, I'm a yurodivy. Now let me get back to stamping out this cuckroach once and for all. And you need to grow a pair too.
Agree with David - you need to simmer way down.
Why should I "simmer down"? What are the consequences if I don't? I don't have any "respect" fir any other being. If people are offended by that, I think the whole point of that statement is that I don't care.
LOL!
Insulting someone's job is over the line, ORD. Darryl isn't exactly an angel, but you are escalating this needlessly.
I'm escalating it because I find it to be fun. As for you, you're a woman, and in the words of Jerry Springer: The Opera, all women are whores, whores and slots and prostitutes. So go and use your only talent for what it was intended. Or is that insulting your job?
Wow. Who hurt you??
My birth mother by giving me away at birth to a couple who shouldn't have been allowed to own a hamster, let alone adopt. That answer your question?
I see, I am sorry that you take out your childhood pain on folks on the internet.
"Men like this"???
That's the problem of North American white guys like you who see non-white guys not as persons with their own qualities, but as a fetish that, again, white guys only are attracted to first and foremost based on race, not on personality and physical attraction
Don't read too much into this Jeff, this seems to just a sick, sick individual.
Disagree with your opinion Jeffrey.
With those pics, HYBE is now researching the possibility of an all-Chinese boyband.
Taiwan #1! Republic of China! Woohoo!
(And if you deny that truth, go ahead, try using your ‘visa’ for the PRC to enter the ROC and vice versa… it won’t work. Huh. Wonder why…)
So many cuties!
I’d love to take this flight. Also fvck MAGA
Interesting. A bunch of "men" doing a submissive role.
You ‘doth protest too much me thinks’
Darryl Macklem thinks his job isn’t submissive. Lmao
you have no idea how demanding it is to be a F/A on a long international flight. I do. It's not for the weak.
Back in your cave, Daz!
Can you imagine on a US airline flight attendants this young having “seniority” to bid on an intercontinental flight?!?!?
Do you not know where Taiwan is? Almost every flight is Onternation/Intercontinental.
Good for them. Clearly it was important for them so I’m all about it
Men advocating for equality by excluding women? Seems on brand.
Knee-jerk reaction. The point is to highlight sexism and underrepresentation, just like women do (and should do) in many other fields. But I can guarantee you don't leave such asinine comments about those events.
China Airlines didn’t employ any male cabin crew until recently.
Icarus,
Better check your facts. I know a male flight attendant that just retired, in October 2025, after 38 years of Cabin Crew services from China Airlines,
It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.
Please check your facts.
I personally know of a male flight attendant that recently retired from China Airlines (of Taiwan), in October 2025, after 38 years of Cabin Crew services.
It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.
@Icarus
It is Eva Air that "didn’t employ any male cabin crew until recently," not China Airlines.
Peak snowflakism
@Mason and @Watson: Oof. Pretending that women aren't objectified, discriminated against, or treated like second class citizens in Taiwan or in aviation is intellectually disingenuous, and interpreting these men's actions as "just like women" pointing out sexism is, well, sorely lacking in a women's perspective...as I am sure most women in your orbit would not be surprised by. But sure! Women are "snowflakes!"
As someone who has long observed and expressed solidarity with the Flight Attendants Union — including both the one at China Airlines and the Taiwan Flight Attendants Union — I would like to briefly outline the background of these events. For many years, Taiwanese airlines either prohibited or discouraged men from becoming flight attendants. This was rooted in the belief that “service work” was something only women should do. Such an attitude not only devalues...
As someone who has long observed and expressed solidarity with the Flight Attendants Union — including both the one at China Airlines and the Taiwan Flight Attendants Union — I would like to briefly outline the background of these events. For many years, Taiwanese airlines either prohibited or discouraged men from becoming flight attendants. This was rooted in the belief that “service work” was something only women should do. Such an attitude not only devalues women but also undermines the dignity of the profession. Consequently, airlines in Taiwan have long designed extremely tight uniforms for their female flight attendants — impractical for work, yet praised by designers as “sexy”.
For a long time, airlines in Taiwan had no trade unions at all (EVA Air, in fact, continues to suppress union activities quite aggressively). Around 2016, with the support of other unions, the flight attendants at China Airlines formed their own trade union and launched the first-ever strike organised by flight attendants in Taiwan. After years of struggle with the company, the union gradually gained the ability to enter into negotiations over workplace policies — including those related to gender. Around the same time that the company relaxed its restrictions on the number of male flight attendants per aeroplane, it also introduced a policy allowing female flight attendants to wear trousers while on duty. For many Western readers, this may seem unremarkable, but for the flight attendants at China Airlines, it marked the result of years of collective effort and reflected the company’s growing respect for its employees. Of course, it also challenged the gender stereotype that only women should perform service work. In this sense, I believe it represented a feminist achievement.
It is also worth noting that within the union, male and female flight attendants have always stood side by side. Among the union leaders sued by China Airlines for organising strike actions were both men and women. Together, they fought for fairer policies — the removal of the quota limiting male flight attendants, the option for female flight attendants to wear trousers on duty, and the introduction of menstrual leave for women employees. They are allies, not opponents, contrary to what some commentators have suggested.
#MeToo
Very cute guys. I fly China Airlines a lot. This can only happen in a country where people are free and happy.
100%
Taiwan is indeed a free, independent and happy country.
So ?
I'm only here to wait for the comments to bottom out.
Sounds like you are on top of it.
Behave Nedskid…I see what u did there. Naughty boy.
Does it really matter to me? NO! On a recent YVR DFW 321 redeye the FA in F was a male. He seemed to know exactly when to see if any one wanted/needed anything without being bothersome. On the DFW YVR flight in F the FA was female and she was hard to find during the flight, The male was so good that I wrote a letter to AA giving him credit for good service.
Those uniforms are atrocious! Is China Airlines trying to humiliate the male crews?
I would be asking for a refund on this flight. Gender absolutely matters.
I'd love to see the response the airline gives you on that one!
Well thankfully for all you barely leave your mothers basement.
Just another wonderful expression of freedom from citizens of the country of Taiwan.
Then do us all a favour and stick with your local airline. Can't speak for that local airline, but for rest of us passengers, we will be happier not having to hear you whine the whole flight.
It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.
When does the video come out?
So many punny titles I can think of for it.