What You Need To Know About Delta’s Big LAX Move

What You Need To Know About Delta’s Big LAX Move

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As you probably know by now, Delta is about to undergo a massive change at Los Angeles International Airport which will affect not only legions of Delta flyers but also flyers on Air Canada, Virgin America, JetBlue, Allegiant, Spirit, and Hawaiian.

Starting this Friday, May 12th, Delta will be moving its operations from Terminals 5 and 6 at LAX to Terminals 2 and 3. The move will take place over the course of three nights (May 12, May 14 and May 16) and LAX will look very different for the Delta flyer when the move is completed on May 17.

Since the upcoming move raises a number of questions, I’ve tried to come up with some answers for you, based on information provided by Delta, Los Angeles World Airports (LAWA), and the always-knowledgeable contributors on FlyerTalk, particularly in this thread.

What happens if I’m flying out of LAX on Delta this weekend or early next week?

Well, it’s tempting to say “chaos,” but Delta and LAWA are working together to make sure this isn’t the case. What you will want to do is check the Delta app or website religiously to get your most updated gate assignment. There will be days next week when Delta will be operating out of four terminals at LAX (2, 3, 5 and 6).

That said, it’s worth keeping in mind that Delta’s highest value flights with its highest paying customers will be among the last to vacate Delta’s former T5 flagship. According to a Delta representative, Delta’s premium LAX-JFK transcontinental route will be the last flight in and out of Terminal 5 — and in no small part due to the fact the entertainment industry’s major New York-based “upfront” ad presentations wrap up on May 17. Entertainment executives and celebrities are the holy grail of the transcon route, and Delta has made sure that the terminal move would have the least impact possible on its flights to and from New York.

Delta's rendering of the secure TBIT/T3 connector, to be completed in 2019
Delta’s rendering of the secure TBIT/T3 connector, to be completed in 2019

Per the FlyerTalk thread, Delta is moving 4 gates from T6 and 2 gates from T5 to T3 on Friday night, 3 gates from T6 to T2 on Sunday night, and all remaining gates in T5 to T2 and T3 on the night of May 16.

It also goes without saying that you’ll want to give yourself plenty of time to get to the airport and plenty of time to get around the airport.

Why is Delta moving terminals?

In short, because flying in and out of LAX has become a royal pain in the butt regardless of whether you fly Delta, American or United. There’s a gate squeeze and airlines are running out of capacity. If you fly into LAX regularly, you’ve no doubt waited on the tarmac for a long time because another aircraft is parked at your gate. Following the T5/T6 -> T2/T3 terminal move, capacity will increase dramatically for Delta. The immediate effect will be to reduce congestion, which I, for one, can’t wait for.

Rendering of the T2/T3 "Sky Way" at LAX, to be complete by mid-2023
Rendering of the T2/T3 “Sky Way” at LAX, to be complete by mid-2023

Moving to Terminals 2 and 3 will also give Delta an opportunity to immediately co-locate with its SkyTeam and joint venture partners, including Virgin Atlantic, Aeromexico and Virgin Australia.

And long down the road Delta will have built itself a state-of-the-art “Sky Way” (which is what they’re calling the T2/T3 combo) that will be well worth the pain.

Delta's rendering of its Terminal 2 ticketing area, to be completed in 2021
Delta’s rendering of its Terminal 2 ticketing area, to be completed in 2021

Wait. What pain?

There is no sugarcoating it, and Delta isn’t even trying to spin it. There will be interim pain for Delta frequent flyers.  Terminal 2 at LAX is actually fabulous. You’ll want to fly out of Terminal 2. Terminal 3, on the other hand, is … not. Terminal 3 is one of the worst terminals in the country, much less in California, and to say it’s depressing is an understatement. Worse, a new Terminal 3 is still a ways off; the Sky Way won’t be complete until mid-2023 — so six years from now.

LAX's gorgeous new Terminal 2
LAX’s gorgeous new Terminal 2

Delta, LAWA and concessionaire Westfield are working together to make Terminal 3 less painful for travelers in the meantime, however. Look for a Shake Shack — and similarly appealing tenants — to populate Terminal 3 soon.

Before we move on, though, I regret to inform you of the biggest headache of all: there will not be a convenient airside connection between T2 and T3 for a while. That’s right: there will be airside shuttles, but if you land at T2 and have a connection at T3, you’ll need to allow yourself extra time to get between gates.

What will happen to the SkyClub?

The SkyClub at Terminal 5 is already being slowly and subtly stripped of its fixtures, and it will shut down for good as a Delta SkyClub just prior to the last LAX-JFK departure on Tuesday, May 16. Thereafter, it will be modified by American Airlines and turned into a spiffy new Admirals Club, which will hopefully alleviate some of the crowding at American’s T4 club.

Air Canada's existing Terminal 2 lounge, soon to be a SkyClub
Air Canada’s existing Terminal 2 lounge, soon to be a SkyClub

Air Canada’s massive Maple Leaf Lounge at Terminal 2, which Ben has reviewed before, will be turned into a SkyClub debuting on Saturday morning. Meanwhile, Delta is converting the small Virgin America Loft in Terminal 3 into a SkyClub, which will open on Wednesday, May 17 but will be undergoing substantial “enhancements” to be unveiled in January 2018.

Virgin America's existing Loft lounge at Terminal 3, soon to be a petite SkyClub
Virgin America’s existing Loft lounge at Terminal 3, soon to be a petite SkyClub

So, during the move you can expect a SkyClub in Delta’s “old” T5/T6 node and a SkyClub in Delta’s “new” T2/T3 node, although if you’re flying out of Terminal 3 during this period the SkyClub in Terminal 2 may not be terribly convenient for you, given the lack of easy airside connection between the terminals.

However, after May 17, Delta will have two SkyClubs, one in each of Terminals 2 and 3, which is pretty much a necessity given the lack of easy mobility between the two terminals for now.

As for what the new SkyClubs will look like, we don’t have a whole lot of information, although I suppose we certainly will in just a few days’ time. We here on the OMAAT team will make sure to publish reviews of the SkyClubs as soon as we have the opportunity to visit them.

What about the Delta ONE Lounge?

Both Ben and I have reviewed the Delta ONE Lounge at LAX, which is a separate closed-off check in lounge with friendly staff, coffee, juice, water and snacks. It’s more of a gimmick than a necessity, and despite spending a lot of money on the venture, Delta is letting the Delta ONE Lounge concept die on the vine for now. With no timeline given, I’ve been told that Delta will eventually resurrect the Delta ONE Lounge concept, but for now, starting May 13, Delta One passengers will have a dedicated check-in area at Terminal 2, but no “private lounge” to speak of. Oh well – for the customers who absolutely need a private terminal, LAX has got you covered anyway.

Delta's pretty, but soon-to-be-discontinued, Delta One Lounge
Delta’s pretty, but soon-to-be-discontinued, Delta One Lounge

Can you give me a timeline?

Yes and no.

Immediately, yes: the terminal move starts May 12 and ends May 16.

Commencing May 17, 2017, Delta will be located exclusively in Terminals 2 and 3 (and eventually with international operations at TBIT, as well).

Terminal 3’s SkyClub “enhancements” will be complete by January 2018.

Per internal documents obtained FlyerTalk — which are in no way confirmed — work on the Terminal 2/3 “head house” — that is to say, landside, and presumably the airside connector between the two terminals — will commence as soon as this November and wrap up by January 2021. Work on the Terminal 2 concourse (what work, isn’t clear, as the terminal is about as spiffy and new as you could hope for) is scheduled in April of this year and will wrap up in January 2019.

Proposed construction schedule published on FlyerTalk
Proposed construction schedule published on FlyerTalk

The airside connector between Terminal 3 and Tom Bradley International Terminal will be completed by January 2019.

Finally, Terminal 3 — that disaster of an excuse of a terminal — will be the last to see significant changes, with work on the satellite portion of the building commencing January 2020 and finishing up in April 2021, and work on the concourse scheduled to start in January 2021 and finish up in July 2023.

Delta's rendering of the "head house" area of Terminals 2 and 3, to be complete by 2021
Delta’s rendering of the “head house” area of Terminals 2 and 3, to be complete by 2021

Bottom Line

I can’t say I’m thrilled about this upcoming move. Delta flyers at LAX will, besides grappling with the logistical headache on the near horizon, have to face six years of construction at the airport. While Delta passengers will benefit from a lovely Terminal 2, they will also suffer from a decrepit Terminal 3, and getting between the two of them will be inconvenient until at least 2021, it appears. Delta’s much-heralded upgrades to Terminal 5, which included a purpose-built VIP lounge for Delta One passengers, will now benefit American Airlines passengers (who will be taking over T5), ironically.

On the flip side, if this means that logistically and operationally Delta will improve by leaps and bounds at LAX, I have a lot to look forward to. At the end of the day, when I land I want to pull up to my gate and deplane. Right now, that’s a challenge, but it shouldn’t be this time next week. More gates means less congestion, and smarter growth for Delta at LAX, which I personally look forward to.

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  1. Andy Guest

    Terminal 2 is fabulous? Are you kidding me? They just slapped new fixtures and paint onto an old terminal. The terminal is crowded, the security queue area is much too small... Actually they did nothing to improve that area. The food options are crappy after trying 3 of their restaurants in two visits. Gate areas are too small, bad shopping. I don't know what you are talking about. It's revamped but it's putting new paint and fixtures on an old frame.

  2. Brian Guest

    Delta...who cares. Why is anyone flying them anyway??

  3. Kris New Member

    So I am (unfortunately) flying on a VIrgin Australia flight (operated by Delta) landing Saturday morning 6:45am at LAX from Sydney I would assume at TBIT.

    I am prepared for the chaos...

    1) my connecting domestic flight will likely then be a T2 or T3- how do I get there after clearing customs/immigration? Will I need to exit security and take bus?

    2) after a 13 hour flight what Delta Skyclub options will I have?

    Thanks!

  4. Mike C. New Member

    Good think for AC, I've been told by AC concierge last Monday, that Maple Leaf biz lounge will be transferred but will accept biz class travelers and travelers with highest AC level.

  5. Jeff New Member

    Has anyone seen when AA may open the T5 AC? On a side note I flew out of that gate tucked behind Rock and Brews last week - total cluster!

  6. Tachyon_OGG-SBA-IAD Guest

    "...Delta ONE Lounge concept die on the vine for now..."

    Remember. Delta is absolutely not committed to consistency or fulfilling promises made to travelers....

    It seems just the other day Ben was giving great reviews to the gorgeous Sky Club in T5.

    And, of course, none of this helps with the narrow alleys, lack of cross airport taxiways, and wicked bad access to the LAX itself.
    Face it, LAX will be a third-world airport...

    "...Delta ONE Lounge concept die on the vine for now..."

    Remember. Delta is absolutely not committed to consistency or fulfilling promises made to travelers....

    It seems just the other day Ben was giving great reviews to the gorgeous Sky Club in T5.

    And, of course, none of this helps with the narrow alleys, lack of cross airport taxiways, and wicked bad access to the LAX itself.
    Face it, LAX will be a third-world airport for years to come.
    I use it weekly and hate every second of it.

  7. Stephen New Member

    Regarding transfer from T2/T3 to TBIT for Virgin Australia passengers arriving on Delta flights, Virgin Australia responded to an inquiry of mine in which they said that as of 13 May, transfer buses will operate from both Terminals 2 and 3 connecting to Virgin Australia flights in TBIT.

    You'll need to show a boarding pass at the Bus Gates located at Gate 35 (T3) and Gate 22 (T2)

  8. Joseph N. Guest

    @Jon W. thanks for the link. That explains it all. It appears the "remodel" of Terminal 3 is going to be an 80% demolition/rebuild.

    @Nick, your terminology is correct. Remember that originally when LAX was built in the 60s there was no concourse between the curbside / ticket counters and the satellites / gates. Passengers walked through tunnels to get to their gates. The concourses out to the satellites, and the double decking of the...

    @Jon W. thanks for the link. That explains it all. It appears the "remodel" of Terminal 3 is going to be an 80% demolition/rebuild.

    @Nick, your terminology is correct. Remember that originally when LAX was built in the 60s there was no concourse between the curbside / ticket counters and the satellites / gates. Passengers walked through tunnels to get to their gates. The concourses out to the satellites, and the double decking of the airport, weren't added until the '84 Olympics.

  9. Icarus Guest

    @Nick @ Jon W.
    this is the " satellite " in the link below

    From my understanding the entire structure will be rebuilt
    Terminal 2 was the same pre 1980s and was entirely demolished and rebuilt whilst still operating albeit with a tent like structure where T1 is now
    Terminal 5 is the only other structure which was rebuilt as the others incl 4 , 6 and 7 had a connector...

    @Nick @ Jon W.
    this is the " satellite " in the link below

    From my understanding the entire structure will be rebuilt
    Terminal 2 was the same pre 1980s and was entirely demolished and rebuilt whilst still operating albeit with a tent like structure where T1 is now
    Terminal 5 is the only other structure which was rebuilt as the others incl 4 , 6 and 7 had a connector built to link with the satellites

    http://www.welikela.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/LAX-terminal-3.jpg

  10. Jon W. Member

    @Nick Guess we should have done some cursory Google as "LAX Terminal 3 Satellite" leads to this as the first result: http://www.lawa.org/ourLAX/CurrentProjects.aspx?id=13905

    And yup they mean the poorly layout bulb as the satellite.

  11. Andrew B Guest

    So will AA use the Delta One Check-In as another Flagship Check-In?

  12. Jon W Member

    As an American and Alaska/Virgin loyalist, I am more than happy for this move (though I definitely get the pain points for Delta). At last I do not have the step in the decrepit terminal that is T3 that feels like a cramped dungeon (and the layout is horribly inefficient). I'm also delighted that I am free to dine at the Lemonade in T5 without feeling guilty that I'm cheating on American to go to...

    As an American and Alaska/Virgin loyalist, I am more than happy for this move (though I definitely get the pain points for Delta). At last I do not have the step in the decrepit terminal that is T3 that feels like a cramped dungeon (and the layout is horribly inefficient). I'm also delighted that I am free to dine at the Lemonade in T5 without feeling guilty that I'm cheating on American to go to Delta since I feel that T4's dining selection is crap, even post renovation.

    Though I have a question about this T3 satellite construction. Does this mean they are building a new satellite terminal for Delta Connection planes, ala Eagle's Nest, or does satellite mean something else in the terminal that's not the concourse?

    1. Nick OMAAT

      @Jon W: Good question in regards to T3. The term "satellite" initially through me since I don't believe they intend to build a midfield terminal for T3, but I think the "satellite" refers to the bulb at the end of the T3 pier. I think.

  13. Icarus Guest

    The issue is that whatever Delta say by posting info online and having signage , renderings and handing out flyers customers will look at terminal 3 and that will be their impression , irrespective of rebuilding etc
    ..first impressions !
    T3 needs demolishing aka the old t2 was
    It would also be better if LAX renumber terminals - 2/3 become 2 as it gives a better image that DL operate from one terminal , TBIT (3) , 4, 5-6 becomes 5 and then 6

  14. David Guest

    Thanks @Tiffany. Maybe if we're Star Alliance Gold, we will have access to the new United Lounge at T7 as well. If memory serves, T6 & T7 are connected after going through security.

    1. Tiffany OMAAT

      @ David -- Yep! TBIT through T8 are now connected airside, you'll just feel a bit like a hamster making the trip.

  15. Eric Guest

    On a related note, do you know when Air Canada will open a MLL in its new home of T6?

  16. Joey Diamond

    Isn't the VS Clubhouse in Terminal 2 at LAX? I wonder if DL folks have access to that lounge? I know at JFK only LHR bound DL pax have access but I don't think Delta flies to LHR from LAX.

  17. David Guest

    Where will the new Air Canada lounge be? Anyone know? Thx.

  18. KP Guest

    Is Air Canada going to move the Maple Leaf lounge to T6 or will they use the new United Club?

    1. Tiffany OMAAT

      @ KP @ David @ Eric -- A new Maple Leaf lounge should be opening in T6 on May 17th as well. We're trying to get more details.

  19. Eliyahu Member

    Has Delta indicated how they plan to divide up gate assignments between the two terminals? E.g., send all the higher value transcons out of T2? Or will it be a total free for all?

  20. Tom Guest

    I taxied by Terminal 3 last weekend. It looked to me like Delta may be building an outdoor "Sky Deck" adjacent to where the VX lounge was located. We will have to see. I can't think of another reason why they would be doing roof construction right there.

  21. RF Diamond

    Nice post Ben. I agree with Makr, what will Priority Pass access look like after these changes?

  22. Tennen Gold

    @AB, VX F pax will have free access to the AS lounge, at least for the rest of the year.

  23. KP Guest

    What's happening to the maple leaf lounge

  24. AB Guest

    Unless you want to walk to the international terminal for KAL (for pp holders)?

  25. AB Guest

    So with VX I think moving to terminal 6, there will be no lounge to use for F pax effective after this transition?

  26. Makr Guest

    Bummer that flyers are losing two Priority Pass lounges in the process!

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Andy Guest

Terminal 2 is fabulous? Are you kidding me? They just slapped new fixtures and paint onto an old terminal. The terminal is crowded, the security queue area is much too small... Actually they did nothing to improve that area. The food options are crappy after trying 3 of their restaurants in two visits. Gate areas are too small, bad shopping. I don't know what you are talking about. It's revamped but it's putting new paint and fixtures on an old frame.

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Brian Guest

Delta...who cares. Why is anyone flying them anyway??

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Kris New Member

So I am (unfortunately) flying on a VIrgin Australia flight (operated by Delta) landing Saturday morning 6:45am at LAX from Sydney I would assume at TBIT. I am prepared for the chaos... 1) my connecting domestic flight will likely then be a T2 or T3- how do I get there after clearing customs/immigration? Will I need to exit security and take bus? 2) after a 13 hour flight what Delta Skyclub options will I have? Thanks!

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